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Legolas
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Life Cycle said :
Guess i shoulda played rs3. This is turning into it and atleast i woulda made gains if i stuck with rs3. Figured this was gona be different. I was wrong.


Legolas said :
Updates don't equal EoC.

Repeat after me.

Updates. Do. Not. Equal. EoC.
Nope.

29-Jun-2016 18:18:18

Legolas
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Ferocire said :
Life Cycle said :
Guess i shoulda played rs3. This is turning into it and atleast i woulda made gains if i stuck with rs3. Figured this was gona be different. I was wrong.


Explain how it's turning into RS3.


He can't. None of them can. It's a half-baked excuse that people jump on in an attempt to fail an update because they don't like it.

Nothing will cause EoC except EoC itself. The game all the way up until it's release was perfectly fine. It had some imbalances in a few places, but the game ran smoothly enough.

It's an excuse to vote no, and nothing more.
Nope.

29-Jun-2016 18:37:16 - Last edited on 29-Jun-2016 18:37:42 by Legolas

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That's funny royy, because we don't need an 'excuse' to vote no any more than you need an excuse to vote yes. People will vote (if there is even a poll for it) however they personally want to vote (just as you will).

Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there.
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

29-Jun-2016 18:44:58

Legolas
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Angel2D4 said :
That's funny royy, because we don't need an 'excuse' to vote no any more than you need an excuse to vote yes. People will vote (if there is even a poll for it) however they personally want to vote (just as you will).

Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there.


People may vote how they wish, but using the "OMG IT'S TURNING IN EoC!!!" or "We voted for 2007scape, not (insert year here)scape" is getting old.

It's a half-baked excuse. Period. Think what you will, but that's all it is. I've yet to see anyone justify that excuse.
Nope.

29-Jun-2016 18:48:27

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Legolas said :
He can't. None of them can. It's a half-baked excuse that people jump on in an attempt to fail an update because they don't like it.

Nothing will cause EoC except EoC itself. The game all the way up until it's release was perfectly fine. It had some imbalances in a few places, but the game ran smoothly enough.

It's an excuse to vote no, and nothing more.


Actually there's a few ways it could be seen as repeating history:

-Arceus library making RC a tad afkable (Runespan but less)
-Easier hunting methods that've been added
-Raids
-GE (to me this is what severely lessened the quality of both RS's)
-Stat boosting items that go in the ammo slot (pocket slot but without a pocket)
-Raids
This is just the beginning, the game is still relatively young. If things keep going like this the similarities will grow

Now does this change that I'll play Oldschool over RS3? Probably not, especially if the polls get the changes that the majority of the community wants. Some players will always be unhappy and the happy ones will never let you know they're happy, but I think the fact that more people play Oldschool than RS3 shows they should try as hard as they can to avoid becoming RS3

29-Jun-2016 18:49:33

xkielbruxx

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Kodai Robes: It's good to see higher tier magic equipment, so I'm not opposed to the armor.

Dragon Sword: A great addition to the dragon family.

Dragon Throwing Axes: Would like to see the special attack % increased and a parameter of time set so that a large group of pvpers can't freeze a player for 5 mins, taking their turns freezing them until death, unless teleporting is allowed and the special is not stackable with tbing.

Dragon Platebody: Please require a dragon chainbody and a similar mechanic of smithing the piece like the dragonfire shield, otherwise, the d chain will be useless and the plate will be too easy to get for low level players.

Prayers: I do not mind the prayers' effects, but please change rigour and augury to lvl 70 requirement just like piety, since piety is the best melee prayer. It does not seem fair for magers and rangers to have to acquire their best combat prayer with more levels to train, while meleers can stop at 70 and be fine. Otherwise, the other two seem a lot less practical to get. Also, I think the prayer scrolls should be untradeable, just like the piety prayer cannot be traded. The venom absorb seems counterproductive, since you can substitute this prayer for antivenoms in 1 inventory slot. Not necessary imo.

Insignias: Please, for the love of god don't make this RS3 or a generic mmo. Insignias would add quite the boost onto all 3 combat skills, which doesn't seem necessary to add to the combat system that's already in place. I would enjoy their effects, but I don't think they are necessary to do well in combat, unless you devs are going to make these raid enemies ridiculously hard. Plus, even if the raid enemies are insignia-worthy opponents, if players get to use these insignias on other bosses and in pvp, it seems it would add an overpowered mechanic to the game. I would prefer not to have these added in this way, but wouldn't be opposed to having them exclusively for raids and not in the full game.

29-Jun-2016 19:00:09

cch1991
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I have to agree, that Dragon equip should be introduced via quests. You just did a really well recieved quest, why not build on that? I dont get why we need even more bosses. We just got a new (demi) boss...

I cant really see a use for the new prayers ( exept mage/ranged) exept devalueing the respective potions.

The dragon plate body is a dead item from the start. Who would dish out 25m+ to replace the torso that has a str bonus...

The insignia are honestly the best items on the list. Giving high end pvmers something new without having a too huge power creep.



During every Q&A people are asking for old content getting fixed and made relevant, but nothing ever happens. Instead we get a bunch of a bunch of half thought through new content.


Please listen to what we really want: a well balanced nice game, with content for everyone at every level.

Give everyone the time necessary to catch up and fix the small things. How many time did Ghost say, he wanted to get stuff right, but there was no time? How many times we asked for closing interfaces with ESC? How many times we asked for the situation with spam bots, etc to be resolved?

During the Q&A the reply is always " we could, but we rather..." No, we dont want new stuff, we want good stuff!

29-Jun-2016 19:29:46 - Last edited on 29-Jun-2016 19:38:37 by cch1991

Poison Vein

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Penguin Lord said :
Legolas said :


Nothing will cause EoC except EoC itself. The game all the way up until it's release was perfectly fine. It had some imbalances in a few places, but the game ran smoothly enough.


Actually there's a few ways it could be seen as repeating history:

-Arceus library making RC a tad afkable (Runespan but less)
-Easier hunting methods that've been added
-Raids
-GE (to me this is what severely lessened the quality of both RS's)
-Stat boosting items that go in the ammo slot (pocket slot but without a pocket)
-Raids
This is just the beginning, the game is still relatively young. If things keep going like this the similarities will grow



I'm sorry but none of those points are good.
RC isn't AFK. Its absolutely nowhere near as afk as runespan was.

Hunter has always been easy. If you are trying to refer to the new method it doesn't make hunter any easier. Its big chunks of xp but at a slow rate to balance it out.

A ton of people actually want raids, so long as the rewards are worth getting and not a huge jump forward at the same time.

While a lot of people don't like the GE without it we all get to stand around for hours trying to sell things which isn't fun for anyone. It makes the game harder and proves nothing by doing so. It shows no prestige like time spent rcing does.

The stat boosting items won't even pass or get put into the game. From what I've read Mod Ash stated on Twitter that it has got a ton of negative feedback.

Plus you only stated 5 points and repeated 1 for a 6th. Its like he said Eoc is Eoc and nothing else. Sure there are bad ideas or updates but that isn't what makes Eoc which is why it is referred to as an excuse. You can vote for whatever you wish but using Eoc as your reason just sounds stupid I'm sorry.

29-Jun-2016 19:31:28

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