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Heya all
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Heya all.

Recently Monetisation of Runescape, MTX especially has been a hot topic. For years we have seen people complaining how Jagex now sells xp and how most of the devs time goes into developing promos for treasure hunter. I won't talk about that, but here's an idea, a thought basically i had while playing some other games. It would be cool to have the opinion of fellow scapers on this.

So, how about we remove all xp related stuff from th. Easy to say. But really .. remove all the stars, lamps, cores etc . Replace with what ? About that .. here's just 1 idea .. there can be many more similar to this .

A lot of us use qc to show our kill counts, levels, clues, resources and many more. How about introduce something like slayer announcer fragments which can be obtained as drops from slayer monsters which have a kill log. The rate of drop will be low but the fragments can be obtained from th as well. What do the fragments do ? you can use the fragments to unlock the qc for any slayer creature kc. Maybe you are focussing more on one slayer creature and would like to unlock it's qc first .. similarly there can be fragments for boss kc, drops, skills ..

It's just a thought and might not really be a good one. We mostly reply with the same qc when someone qc's something. .it's fun. Having requirements to unlock qc will certainly take that away. Share your opinions on this if any.

19-Nov-2019 05:13:30

Dilbert2001
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No support because players don't like more Banners. Many people found it annoying. Nobody wants to hear other's kc.

Besides, you are very wrong most of the development time has been spent on developing promos for TH. The LiveOp team is only one of the smaller of the 3 content development teams in RS3. This team develops all kinds of live events including the totally non-MTX ones like Parcel Pete, not just TH promos.

Regarding selling xp, Jagex is found totally worse just by selling millions of direct xp through the Sizzling Summer Membership prombotion back in 2012. Some people got to level 96 skill immediately with such exclusive promotion to members. XP promotion in 2019 is nothing comparing to such promotions through membership in 2012.

19-Nov-2019 15:47:38 - Last edited on 19-Nov-2019 16:11:51 by Dilbert2001

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Dilbert2001 said :
No support because players don't like more Banners. Many people found it annoying. Nobody wants to hear other's kc.

Besides, you are very wrong most of the development time has been spent on developing promos for TH. The LiveOp team is only one of the smaller of the 3 content development teams in RS3. This team develops all kinds of live events including the totally non-MTX ones like Parcel Pete, not just TH promos.

Regarding selling xp, Jagex is found totally worse just by selling millions of direct xp through the Sizzling Summer Membership prombotion back in 2012. Some people got to level 96 skill immediately with such exclusive promotion to members. XP promotion in 2019 is nothing comparing to such promotions through membership in 2012.


They gave out 10m xp lamps in 2012? I need my blue charms back.

20-Nov-2019 03:17:46

Dilbert2001
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ELITE STACK said :
Dilbert2001 said :
No support because players don't like more Banners. Many people found it annoying. Nobody wants to hear other's kc.

Besides, you are very wrong most of the development time has been spent on developing promos for TH. The LiveOp team is only one of the smaller of the 3 content development teams in RS3. This team develops all kinds of live events including the totally non-MTX ones like Parcel Pete, not just TH promos.

Regarding selling xp, Jagex is found totally worse just by selling millions of direct xp through the Sizzling Summer Membership prombotion back in 2012. Some people got to level 96 skill immediately with such exclusive promotion to members. XP promotion in 2019 is nothing comparing to such promotions through membership in 2012.


They gave out 10m xp lamps in 2012?

Not just 10m xp lamps, try more than 10 times or 1.05 mil DIRECT XP lamps and notes plus the CHOOSE YOUR FATE exclusive items like Deathtouched Darts and Instant Respawn cheat death items... all for nothing but just being a member in Summer 2012:

"Players that had membership subscription during the month of August received one extra spin on the Squeal of Fortune. Members lasting throughout the whole of August (31 July to 1 September) were rewarded a total of 350,000 experience in the form of a Promissory note that when clicked granted several experience lamps. Furthermore, members who were subscribed to membership in September received two extra spins on the Squeal of Fortune. In addition, being subscribed to membership throughout both August and September granted a bonus of 700,000 experience at the end of September."


https://runescape.wiki/w/Sizzling_Summer

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/choose-your-fate-for-sizzling-summer

Selling instant level 96 and DT darts setc through membership was 9000 times worse than TH now.

20-Nov-2019 15:45:39

Theos
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Dilbert: "Selling instant level 96 and DT darts setc through membership was 9000 times worse than TH now."

That's subjective. I personally think the oversaturation of XP lamp, and star promotions have gotten out of control. Lava lanterns are so incredibly common, with Treasure Hunter promotions functioning the way they are today there has never been an "easier" time to max or potentially P2W by purchasing a large number of TH keys. During the right promotions, it is possible for someone to easy max through TH probably within the $1,000 - $5,000 range.
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20-Nov-2019 19:39:13

Dilbert2001
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Theos said :
Dilbert: "Selling instant level 96 and DT darts setc through membership was 9000 times worse than TH now."

That's subjective. I personally think the oversaturation of XP lamp, and star promotions have gotten out of control. Lava lanterns are so incredibly common, with Treasure Hunter promotions functioning the way they are today there has never been an "easier" time to max or potentially P2W by purchasing a large number of TH keys. During the right promotions, it is possible for someone to easy max through TH probably within the $1,000 - $5,000 range.

Note that Jagex sold 1.05 mil xp plus exclusive items that were extremely OP in 2012 to EVERY MEMBER who paid like $5-7 a month, not just a few whales who paid $1,000 - $5,000. It was absolutely horrible to see every member with at least a near max skill just because they were members.

Just a few whales who spent $1,000 won't mean much to the economy but a million members who get a free near max level skill certainly will.

20-Nov-2019 19:48:36

Theos
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Dilbert2001 said :
Theos said :
Dilbert: "Selling instant level 96 and DT darts setc through membership was 9000 times worse than TH now."

That's subjective. I personally think the oversaturation of XP lamp, and star promotions have gotten out of control. Lava lanterns are so incredibly common, with Treasure Hunter promotions functioning the way they are today there has never been an "easier" time to max or potentially P2W by purchasing a large number of TH keys. During the right promotions, it is possible for someone to easy max through TH probably within the $1,000 - $5,000 range.

Note that Jagex sold 1.05 mil xp plus exclusive items that were extremely OP in 2012 to EVERY MEMBER who paid like $5-7 a month, not just a few whales who paid $1,000 - $5,000. It was absolutely horrible to see every member with at least a near max skill just because they were members.

Just a few whales who spent $1,000 won't mean much to the economy but a million members who get a free near max level skill certainly will.

I get what you're saying, but if you also compare the number of maxed players back then...the list was what... a few pages long with maybe 100 maxed players tops? Now there are over 5,000 maxed RS players. I'm not even sure how large the list is of players who have at least all "99s".

I agree, the 1.05M xp was certainly bad to give out as a perk to all members. I just disagree in the magnitude of "how bad" it was, I think the current oversaturation of Treasure Hunter promotions and XP available from all of these stars and lamps are far worse.
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21-Nov-2019 15:36:26

Dilbert2001
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Theos said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Theos said :
Dilbert: "Selling instant level 96 and DT darts setc through membership was 9000 times worse than TH now."

That's subjective. I personally think the oversaturation of XP lamp, and star promotions have gotten out of control. Lava lanterns are so incredibly common, with Treasure Hunter promotions functioning the way they are today there has never been an "easier" time to max or potentially P2W by purchasing a large number of TH keys. During the right promotions, it is possible for someone to easy max through TH probably within the $1,000 - $5,000 range.

Note that Jagex sold 1.05 mil xp plus exclusive items that were extremely OP in 2012 to EVERY MEMBER who paid like $5-7 a month, not just a few whales who paid $1,000 - $5,000. It was absolutely horrible to see every member with at least a near max skill just because they were members.

Just a few whales who spent $1,000 won't mean much to the economy but a million members who get a free near max level skill certainly will.

I get what you're saying, but if you also compare the number of maxed players back then...the list was what... a few pages long with maybe 100 maxed players tops? Now there are over 5,000 maxed RS players. I'm not even sure how large the list is of players who have at least all "99s".

I agree, the 1.05M xp was certainly bad to give out as a perk to all members. I just disagree in the magnitude of "how bad" it was, I think the current oversaturation of Treasure Hunter promotions and XP available from all of these stars and lamps are far worse.

Far far far more than 100 maxed players in 2012, and I know that because I was one of them. Note also that Sizzling Summer ran with SoF at the same time in 2012. It was just a supplement to Yelp. How could it be better than now?

21-Nov-2019 16:06:30

Theos
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Dilbert - I'm not sure how many maxed players there were in 2012, but I see there are well over 85,000 who have "all 99s" in 2019. I don't know the number of comp capes, or trimmed completionists. Achieving maxed stats isn't nearly as exclusive, or difficult as it once was. Treasure Hunter promotions, and the copious amount of easy XP that is attainable hasn't helped the situation.

I'm not saying the 1.05M xp lamps weren't bad, they definitely were bad and making it a "membership" perk was likely one of the defining moments that transitioned XP rewards into being "broken" in my opinion. I'm saying, if you compare the totality of current and recent TH promotions, it is far worse now.
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21-Nov-2019 17:00:03

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