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^ the chest contains 1 purple th prize.

F2p can still get the very same purple with their f2p key.

Chest is a free bonus. People like to complain about everything.
Skillet? Skill no.

So much moot.

19-Feb-2019 06:21:53 - Last edited on 19-Feb-2019 06:22:38 by Never RIP

Dilbert2001
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David James said :
Dilbert2001 said :
The Umbral Chest is just a gift for the money you spend on buying 450 keys. It costs $0.00. :D


It actually costs $109.00 to obtain the chest though, as you cannot obtain it without paying this amount.


Just because something is included as extra incentive in an offer doesn't mean it's free, if it was free I wouldn't have to pay anything at any time to obtain it ;)

This is like how you can report the survey companies for falsely advertising an offer as giving free *insert random virtual premium currency you're trying to earn* when you later have to buy their product. It's not free if you gotta pay for it, even if it's simply included as a bonus.


Bonus =/= Free. "Free" is just misleading terminology commonly used to encourage sale of a product.


You also need to pay the same $109.00 to get the same 450 keys a couple of days ago but you would not get an Umbral Chest. By your logics, whoever paid $109.00 for 450 keys last week would have paid for "nothing". :D :D :D :D :D :D

19-Feb-2019 17:18:56

Eden Syvian

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Offering the umbral chest in addition to the 450 keys makes purchasing 450 keys more enticing for people with low will power/gambling addiction/alot of money.

Like all treasure hunter promotions, their purpose is to take advantage of people with the aforementioned qualities. To continue to milk this game dry of any and all revenue possible for the benefit of the Chinese based board of directors who own Jagex. Who at the moment are facing bankruptcy, so expect some even more ridiculous shit like guaranteed 5x smouldering lamps during dxp.

Absolutely no care for the game's economy and how flooding the game with items during these various promotions irreversibly damages it.

Zero regard for the value and 'rarity' of purple items which will crash due to the rapid influx of them during this promo.

Literally injecting hundreds of 200m prizes in to the game.

I'm not against mtx, but Jagex have been pushing it so aggressively, shoving it down our throats and in to our faces at every turn for years. And the promotions are so overpowered and damaging to the game's integrity and economy.

They know adding umbral chests to the 450 key (most expensive) option will get more people to buy it in a short space of time (limited time offer) and that's all they care about. not the game, not the playerbase. Money, solid cash.

19-Feb-2019 20:00:52

Tom Grey

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Dilbert2001 said :
David James said :
Dilbert2001 said :
The Umbral Chest is just a gift for the money you spend on buying 450 keys. It costs $0.00. :D


It actually costs $109.00 to obtain the chest though, as you cannot obtain it without paying this amount.


Just because something is included as extra incentive in an offer doesn't mean it's free, if it was free I wouldn't have to pay anything at any time to obtain it ;)

This is like how you can report the survey companies for falsely advertising an offer as giving free *insert random virtual premium currency you're trying to earn* when you later have to buy their product. It's not free if you gotta pay for it, even if it's simply included as a bonus.


Bonus =/= Free. "Free" is just misleading terminology commonly used to encourage sale of a product.


You also need to pay the same $109.00 to get the same 450 keys a couple of days ago but you would not get an Umbral Chest. By your logics, whoever paid $109.00 for 450 keys last week would have paid for "nothing". :D :D :D :D :D :D
Wrong. If it wasn’t for new chests, there would be no point in buying the 450 keys. So essentially you either don’t buy keys, getting nothing, or buy keys and get the chest. So the chest adds additional value to the offer. And if there was 0 incentive to buy keys before, we can estimate that a the chest itself is worth a good chunk of that $109 price tag.

19-Feb-2019 23:55:05

David James

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Dilbert2001 said :
David James said :
Dilbert2001 said :
The Umbral Chest is just a gift for the money you spend on buying 450 keys. It costs $0.00. :D


It actually costs $109.00 to obtain the chest though, as you cannot obtain it without paying this amount.


Just because something is included as extra incentive in an offer doesn't mean it's free, if it was free I wouldn't have to pay anything at any time to obtain it ;)

This is like how you can report the survey companies for falsely advertising an offer as giving free *insert random virtual premium currency you're trying to earn* when you later have to buy their product. It's not free if you gotta pay for it, even if it's simply included as a bonus.


Bonus =/= Free. "Free" is just misleading terminology commonly used to encourage sale of a product.


You also need to pay the same $109.00 to get the same 450 keys a couple of days ago but you would not get an Umbral Chest. By your logics, whoever paid $109.00 for 450 keys last week would have paid for "nothing". :D :D :D :D :D :D


And by your logic, everything is free as long as you pay for it first ;)

20-Feb-2019 01:28:58

Dilbert2001
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David James said :
Dilbert2001 said :
David James said :
Dilbert2001 said :
The Umbral Chest is just a gift for the money you spend on buying 450 keys. It costs $0.00. :D


It actually costs $109.00 to obtain the chest though, as you cannot obtain it without paying this amount.


Just because something is included as extra incentive in an offer doesn't mean it's free, if it was free I wouldn't have to pay anything at any time to obtain it ;)

This is like how you can report the survey companies for falsely advertising an offer as giving free *insert random virtual premium currency you're trying to earn* when you later have to buy their product. It's not free if you gotta pay for it, even if it's simply included as a bonus.


Bonus =/= Free. "Free" is just misleading terminology commonly used to encourage sale of a product.


You also need to pay the same $109.00 to get the same 450 keys a couple of days ago but you would not get an Umbral Chest. By your logics, whoever paid $109.00 for 450 keys last week would have paid for "nothing". :D :D :D :D :D :D


And by your logic, everything is free as long as you pay for it first ;)


No. Everything is free as long as you don't need to pay for it.

Buy A get B free means B is free with the purchase of A, when the governments approves that way of advertisements and for the record they do and every business is doing advertisement that way. :)

20-Feb-2019 01:56:03 - Last edited on 20-Feb-2019 01:56:48 by Dilbert2001

David James

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Dilbert2001 said :
David James said :
Dilbert2001 said :
David James said :
Dilbert2001 said :
The Umbral Chest is just a gift for the money you spend on buying 450 keys. It costs $0.00. :D


It actually costs $109.00 to obtain the chest though, as you cannot obtain it without paying this amount.


Just because something is included as extra incentive in an offer doesn't mean it's free, if it was free I wouldn't have to pay anything at any time to obtain it ;)

This is like how you can report the survey companies for falsely advertising an offer as giving free *insert random virtual premium currency you're trying to earn* when you later have to buy their product. It's not free if you gotta pay for it, even if it's simply included as a bonus.


Bonus =/= Free. "Free" is just misleading terminology commonly used to encourage sale of a product.


You also need to pay the same $109.00 to get the same 450 keys a couple of days ago but you would not get an Umbral Chest. By your logics, whoever paid $109.00 for 450 keys last week would have paid for "nothing". :D :D :D :D :D :D


And by your logic, everything is free as long as you pay for it first ;)


No. Everything is free as long as you don't need to pay for it.


Buy A get B free means B is free with the purchase of A, when the governments approves that way of advertisements and for the record they do and every business is doing advertisement that way. :)


Thank you for supporting my claim (in green) as since you have to pay for it, it's not free. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

20-Feb-2019 04:43:02

David James

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Please enlighten me as to how I can obtain the Umbral chests without paying for it to make it actually be considered as "free" and I'll admit I'm wrong.

Remember, paying $109.00 to get the chest as a bonus doesn't count because I have to pay to get it ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

20-Feb-2019 04:57:38

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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David James said :
Dilbert2001 said :
David James said :
Dilbert2001 said :
David James said :
Dilbert2001 said :
The Umbral Chest is just a gift for the money you spend on buying 450 keys. It costs $0.00. :D


It actually costs $109.00 to obtain the chest though, as you cannot obtain it without paying this amount.


Just because something is included as extra incentive in an offer doesn't mean it's free, if it was free I wouldn't have to pay anything at any time to obtain it ;)

This is like how you can report the survey companies for falsely advertising an offer as giving free *insert random virtual premium currency you're trying to earn* when you later have to buy their product. It's not free if you gotta pay for it, even if it's simply included as a bonus.


Bonus =/= Free. "Free" is just misleading terminology commonly used to encourage sale of a product.


You also need to pay the same $109.00 to get the same 450 keys a couple of days ago but you would not get an Umbral Chest. By your logics, whoever paid $109.00 for 450 keys last week would have paid for "nothing". :D :D :D :D :D :D


And by your logic, everything is free as long as you pay for it first ;)


No. Everything is free as long as you don't need to pay for it.


Buy A get B free means B is free with the purchase of A, when the governments approves that way of advertisements and for the record they do and every business is doing advertisement that way. :)


Thank you for supporting my claim (in green) as since you have to pay for it, it's not free. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)


I am not supporting your claim whatsoever. I am supporting the companies and the government's advertising standards and the wisdom of the smart consumers who know what "free" means. :D :D :D

20-Feb-2019 17:00:08

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