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Lady Airlea
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Filling an archtype very flatly isn't great. That's why people dislike the Signature heroes as they were, or did. Their story hasn't been expanded on in most cases before they die, fall from heroic status, or so on.

That said however, a team having a new structure makes sense from a story point. But so does keeping it similar to how it is.

A group of Knights has a great advantage. Except when they're sent to fight a powerful warlock.

For this I want to think that Radimus Erkle and the Wise Old Man asked us to take on apprentices. We can do it how we want, but the idea of keeping to some of the exact same types of characters gives us a weakness.
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01-May-2017 15:42:15

Raleirosen

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Lady Airlea said :
Filling an archtype very flatly isn't great. That's why people dislike the Signature heroes as they were, or did. Their story hasn't been expanded on in most cases before they die, fall from heroic status, or so on. No, people disliked the signature heroes mostly because they were shoved into the game with little forethought and despite being totally unknown and new they were treated like the player character's equal. I don't think anyone really cared that they were essentially archetypes, though that probably didn't help. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

01-May-2017 20:13:54

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There's nothing inherently wrong with using an archetype as a starting point. Makes for a well-rounded group if you have characters playing disparate roles, too -- covers a lot of bases.

It does, however, matter if they become interesting characters beyond that -- it's debatable whether the batch of Signature Heroes we've got managed that, and it's debatable whether the characters being suggested here have managed that (I'd say Grubfoot's come the furthest, I love Grubfoot), but there's always room to grow. While they're still alive, that is. Though all the Signature Heroes that got killed off managed to develop after their deaths...!
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01-May-2017 21:25:17

Maiden China

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Raleirosen said :
Lady Airlea said :
Filling an archtype very flatly isn't great. That's why people dislike the Signature heroes as they were, or did. Their story hasn't been expanded on in most cases before they die, fall from heroic status, or so on. No, people disliked the signature heroes mostly because they were shoved into the game with little forethought and despite being totally unknown and new they were treated like the player character's equal. I don't think anyone really cared that they were essentially archetypes, though that probably didn't help. this, yes Carn

02-May-2017 09:40:15

Ashlin107

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I'd consider Sir Owen still in action since although he's corrupted I wouldn't be surprised if his condition is completely undone by the end of Death of Chivalry 2 when it eventually comes out. Although I do fear for Ozan in the upcoming Menaphos quest(s).

I honestly consider the signature heroes a waste of potential. I might be a minority here but I actually liked the idea of having other powerful heroes in the world and the potential of being able to one day assemble as sort of Avengers like team to take down big bads like Lucien or Sliske.

But in no particular order I'll list a few characters off the top of my head who could be signature heroes. I'll include the 'mentor' role as well since the World Guardian is fairly interchangeable between the 'mentor' and 'well rounded adventure' roles.

Moia-(Mage) In addition to her memory powers she has shown she is an extremely powerful mage and is arguably one of the most powerful characters in rs. She could also really benefit from being mentored by us or another mentor since she has been struggling to find that sort of figure in her life although she has somewhat found that in Zamorak and Bilarch.

Zenevivia-(Mage,Mentor or Slayer) She is one of the most experienced adventures that's still alive and is shown to be a powerful mage. But what best suited to the Slayer is that she loves fighting which in a way makes her quite similar to the Raptor.

Wise Old Man-(Mentor or Mage) A powerful mage who is also considered a legend amongst adventures and has reputation comparable to ours. He's certainly most fit for the Mentor role if it isn't us.

Eva- (Warrior) A prodigy amongst the Temple Knights. What more can I say?

Philippe-(All rounder) At the moment he's a fairly blank canvas of an Adventurer.

Geoff-(Ranger) Said to be a capable ranger although he'll need to be coaxed out of retirement. The statement below is false.
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02-May-2017 11:37:32

Raleirosen

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Ashlin107 said :
I'd consider Sir Owen still in action since although he's corrupted I wouldn't be surprised if his condition is completely undone by the end of Death of Chivalry 2 when it eventually comes out. And Owen just so happens to be the only really good character out of the signature heroes.
Ashlin107 said :
I might be a minority here but I actually liked the idea of having other powerful heroes in the world and the potential of being able to one day assemble as sort of Avengers like team to take down big bads like Lucien or Sliske. ...and in the former's case we actually did, using characters that were already part of the game's world. When they were introduced there was absolutely nothing about the signature heroes that was organic. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

02-May-2017 22:40:11

Ashlin107

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Raleirosen said :
Ashlin107 said :
I'd consider Sir Owen still in action since although he's corrupted I wouldn't be surprised if his condition is completely undone by the end of Death of Chivalry 2 when it eventually comes out. And Owen just so happens to be the only really good character out of the signature heroes.
Ashlin107 said :
I might be a minority here but I actually liked the idea of having other powerful heroes in the world and the potential of being able to one day assemble as sort of Avengers like team to take down big bads like Lucien or Sliske. ...and in the former's case we actually did, using characters that were already part of the game's world. When they were introduced there was absolutely nothing about the signature heroes that was organic.

Well in a way they didn't really flesh out most of the heroes before slaughtering them. The biggest offender with this is Linza who only had one major appearance before being turned into a wight.

Also before the sig heroes came there weren't many that were "crossover" material since the stories of questlines were mostly self contained until they expanded on the Mahjaarat.

But yea most of the heroes were fairly cliche like Ozan the charismatic thief, Ariane the nerdy yet unconventional mage and Xenia the shady mentor.

The only ones that haven't fallen to these cliches (yet) are Sir Owen a knight who will do whatever it takes to win even if it isn't the most "honourable" approach and Linza and Raptor who are still fairly blank slates. Although Raptor seems to just be an unstoppable killing machine and Linza well lets face it she probably would've been the Aquaman/Hawkeye of the group. The statement below is false.
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03-May-2017 08:41:11

Ancient Drew

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Well Linza was an idiot for stealing from the Dragonkin and had nothing going for her before Kindred Spirits, Ozan is just unlikable and makes Saradomin look modest, Ariane is the most generic mage I've ever seen with little to no personality put in, Xenia had nothing until Elegy (even as a villain in Heart of Stone she sucked, at least Elegy redeemed her), and the Raptor is yet another generic boring warrior type with no character or personality. I am not going to look forward to any of the Signature Heroes at all until we see something that redeems them or gives them some personality and taste, like they did with Sir Owen. It's a good thing that Owen could, and did, stay loyal to Saradomin after being corrupted as that shows integrity.

Wait a minute. Does that mean that the Signature Heroes won't get any personality until they die? Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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04-May-2017 06:31:14

Ashlin107

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^Well Sir Owen isn't dead quite yet since he could be restored. As for the Raptor well he never had a major appearance so we don't know if there's a personality under that armour.

As for Ozan well if your theory is correct well when Menaphos comes we should see some decent character development for him. Then he will have an appointment booked at Harold's office if you know what I mean. The statement below is false.
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04-May-2017 08:52:05

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