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Resherack
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Now, I have no idea if someone else already covered this or not but regardless i haven't seen it soooo.

In SE at the end of the quest when you stab and "kill" Sliske he turns into stone and then explodes, which goes to my question which is was sliske a god at this time? as we've seen Lucien die and he didnt turn to stone along with Jhallen.

17-Feb-2017 04:49:11

Summerleaf
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I asked the same question a while ago. Basically, we don't know for sure, but speculation says that he may have ascended somehow.

I think someone may have mentioned that Mahjarrat are supposed to turn to stone when they die, and Lucien and others' deaths are supposed to be that way.

... I can't remember which.

Crap.

Sorry.

17-Feb-2017 05:03:11

Cthris
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From the recent Lore Corner:

Question: Is there any significance to Sliske petrifying upon his "death"? Only gods have been seen to do so, and Lucien, who was also impaled upon the Staff of Armadyl, ended up as a simple corpse. Is it to do with him having apparently transferred his soul to us?


Answer: Sliske had been exposed to multiple divinity-inspiring events, including killing Guthix (spoilers!), hanging around the stone, and even hanging around Jas. Although everyone made a huge deal about it in MPD, as with Azzanadra the line of divinity isn't that sharp in the case of Mahjarrat. For consistency, it probably ought to have been the case that Lucien turned to stone too.

17-Feb-2017 06:56:17

Kemtros
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"For consistency, it probably ought to have been the case that Lucien turned to stone too."

I like this part. I'm sure people will cry "LOREFAIL!", but this retroactively means that Lucien's death was the lorefail, and the same should apply to Jhallan.

17-Feb-2017 19:05:19

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Kemtros said :
"For consistency, it probably ought to have been the case that Lucien turned to stone too."

I like this part. I'm sure people will cry "LOREFAIL!", but this retroactively means that Lucien's death was the lorefail, and the same should apply to Jhallan.


I'm not so sure that Jhallen would have turned to stone as well due to his use as a sacrifice in the Ritual. It seems to funnel the Mahjarrat's energy to the attending Mahjarrat. Considering what we know about it, this appears to leave nothing behind of the sacrificed Mahjarrat other than their gems (the dense purple/black crystal deposits described in the Virtus Book).

In that case though, Palkeera should also have turned to stone.

Considering that, I think it's a case of Mahjarrat that begin blurring that line of Divine vs Mortal that would turn to stone when killed. This explains why only Lucien was brought up as a potential retroactive correction and not Jhallen or Palkeera (although I still do think that the Ritual does consume the body of the sacrificed Mahjarrat with the sole exception of their crystals).

17-Feb-2017 19:44:22

Wahisietel
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Mahjarrat do not turn to stone on death under normal circumstances. In addition to not seeing this happen to the three Mahjarrat we've seen die (Lucien, Palkeera, Zemouregal), the quest that came out right before Endgame provided an explanation as to what actually happens.

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When we die, our crystals remain, yet the rest rots away. It is likely, then, to be our source of power, our long life.


Mahjarrat corpses are like pretty much any other corpse, except for the crystal. Sliske was apparently closer to godhood than he thought. Having the Stone of Jas for years will do that to you.

I imagine in the case of sacrificed Mahjarrat, the crystal is destroyed too.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

17-Feb-2017 20:08:35 - Last edited on 17-Feb-2017 22:05:23 by Wahisietel

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Wahisietel said :
Mahjarrat do not turn to stone on death under normal circumstances. In addition to not seeing this happen to the three Mahjarrat we've seen not turn to stone (Lucien, Palkeera, Zemouregal), the quest that came out right before Endgame provided an explanation as to what actually happens.

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When we die, our crystals remain, yet the rest rots away. It is likely, then, to be our source of power, our long life.


Mahjarrat corpses are like pretty much any other corpse, except for the crystal. Sliske was apparently closer to godhood than he thought. Having the Stone of Jas for years will do that to you.

I imagine in the case of sacrificed Mahjarrat, the crystal is destroyed too.


Two things:

1. We've already got confirmation that Lucien should have turned to stone (which indicates to me that Mahjarrat on the cusp of godhood are meant to turn to stone).

2. If the crystal is destroyed when a Mahjarrat is sacrificed, then what do you think the dense purple/black crystal deposits that appear 500 years apart (corresponding to the Mahjarrat's rituals) in the vicinity of the Ritual Marker are (they are described in the Virtus Book)?

17-Feb-2017 20:34:23 - Last edited on 17-Feb-2017 20:35:27 by Hguoh

Wahisietel
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Hguoh said :

Two things:

1. We've already got confirmation that Lucien should have turned to stone (which indicates to me that Mahjarrat on the cusp of godhood are meant to turn to stone).

2. If the crystal is destroyed when a Mahjarrat is sacrificed, then what do you think the dense purple/black crystal deposits that appear 500 years apart (corresponding to the Mahjarrat's rituals) in the vicinity of the Ritual Marker are (they are described in the Virtus Book)?


Jagex saying he "should have" turned to stone isn't canon - what is canon is that he didn't.

2. There's way too much of the black and purple crystal for them to be made of what little crystals the Mahjarrat possess. I imagine it's excess strange power energy solidified.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

17-Feb-2017 22:13:09

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