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Swolllliosis

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A Mad Hatter said :
Then again, the clan titles we can get are 'of the <clan>' rather than just the clan name, so maybe you're onto something here and Seren's influence on them accounts for that somehow. O_o

Titles are not canon. Having the King title doesn't make you really king

Nor does having Pontifex or Legatus, make you the highest ranking person in the Zarosian army. Titles are just for fun.

What kind of title is Ravensworn anyway...

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24-Jan-2017 03:54:01

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2005

A Mad Hatter

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*Also making this post because I need to wear the moderator hat for a second.*

On a different note, there's a few things I need to say about the topic that's not lore related. Nobody's in trouble, but I made my first post here before running into another thread made by the OP that was similar in nature to this. That was my bad for not checking ahead of time. In no particular order...

* I sorta needed to change the title to something more appropriate. Changes should be kicking in shortly if they haven't already.

* I explained my decision to lock the OP's other thread here , and why I'm keeping this open for the time being. To reiterate and expand on it so we're all on the same page:

I don't necessarily condone the topic of incest, nor do I think it's really appropriate for the forums. But there's potential discussion value about elven culture here, and given that in the past we've discussed things like Mahjarrat reproduction (including why the females have breasts despite their non mammalian nature), elves evolving dark colored skin, Dragonkin eugenics, and even the possibility of gods being able to have kids with mortals through physical means or otherwise, closing this while leaving the others open would be a bit hypocritical in my mind.

The other thread was closed because I simply felt that nothing good would come from it given it's topic.

* So basically, as long as we keep things mature and on topic like the subjects mentioned above, I have no problem letting this stay open. But the second this goes off the rails I'm going to close it and take action against whatever genius(es) decided to instigate things.

This post does not guarantee safety from things like Jmods or other Fmods locking it because they feel it crossed a line. It's simply my reasoning for why I did what I did and nothing more.

If anyone has further questions then they can either try and pm me ingame or post here.

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24-Jan-2017 04:06:07

Raleirosen

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Swolllliosis said :
Nor does having Pontifex or Legatus, make you the highest ranking person in the Zarosian army. I felt a great disturbance in w42... as if dozens of roleplayers suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

24-Jan-2017 04:11:53 - Last edited on 24-Jan-2017 04:12:15 by Raleirosen

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2005

A Mad Hatter

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Swolllliosis said :
A Mad Hatter said :
Then again, the clan titles we can get are 'of the <clan>' rather than just the clan name, so maybe you're onto something here and Seren's influence on them accounts for that somehow. O_o

Titles are not canon. Having the King title doesn't make you really king

Nor does having Pontifex or Legatus, make you the highest ranking person in the Zarosian army. Titles are just for fun.

What kind of title is Ravensworn anyway...

They might not be canon, but it wouldn't be the first time they integrated ingame titles into the lore. After all, we have the World Guardian title that nearly everyone refers to us by, we're referred to as a Portmaster in the PoP dialogue, and the Ravensworn one makes cameo references in a few quests that seem to building up to something...or not.

But those are also the outliers rather than the rule.

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24-Jan-2017 04:13:50

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2023

William Witt

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Swolllliosis said :
How do elves even sort the different subfamilies in a clan? They all have the same last name! Unless there is an elven genealogist that keeps track of all the subfamilies in a clan to prevent incestuous relationships, an elf could be dating their cousin for all they know. Also, If, say, the Meilyr clan has a population of 1000, and they all mate with different non-familial elves of their own clan, they are eventually going to run out of combinations and force to commit inbreeding either way.

Also, i don't think cross-clan marriages are a thing. That would ruin the very definition of a clan.

Edern is a last name, you silly billy. So they *don't* all have the same last name.

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24-Jan-2017 04:34:21

Hazeel

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Swolllliosis said :
A Mad Hatter said :
Then again, the clan titles we can get are 'of the <clan>' rather than just the clan name, so maybe you're onto something here and Seren's influence on them accounts for that somehow. O_o

Titles are not canon. Having the King title doesn't make you really king

Nor does having Pontifex or Legatus, make you the highest ranking person in the Zarosian army. Titles are just for fun.

What kind of title is Ravensworn anyway...

I'll have you know that I am, in fact, a Dark Lord. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

24-Jan-2017 04:36:58

Swolllliosis

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William Witt said :

Edern is a last name, you silly billy. So they *don't* all have the same last name.

That's a middle name.

Lord Iestin Edern Iorwerth is Lord Iowerth's full name as stated in the Voice of the Elders book.

Like how Elen Anterth Cadarn is the full name of the Max Cape seller lady.

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24-Jan-2017 04:48:15 - Last edited on 24-Jan-2017 04:50:23 by Swolllliosis

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William Witt

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Swolllliosis said :
William Witt said :

Edern is a last name, you silly billy. So they *don't* all have the same last name.

That's a middle name.

Lord Iestin Edern Iorwerth is Lord Iowerth's full name as stated in the Voice of the Elders book.

Like how Elen Anterth Cadarn is the full name of the Max Cape seller lady.

No, no, it isn't. Her name is Elen Anterth. I just went and talked to her myself. She introduces herself and says her family "falls under the auspices of Clan Cadarn".

You're forgetting Iestin had a brother (also with the surname Edern), and he was simply called "Iestin Edern" prior to being made the new Lord Iorwerth.

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24-Jan-2017 05:00:07

Hguoh

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Swolllliosis said :
Further evidence that elves commit interbreeding is the fact that everyone has the same last name among clan members. Arianwyn Cadarn, Elen Cadarn, Lunet Cadarn, etc. and having the same last name suggests you are related right? They could all be cousins, sisters, brothers, for all we know!

I think that it is more the case that it is a clan name rather than a last name. To illustrate this point, I present the current Lord Iowerth (Lord Iestin Edern Iowerth) and his deceased younger brother Nissyen Edern Iowerth.

The idea of two siblings having the same middle name is fairly unlikely, which suggests that the name structure of an Elf goes along the lines of: Personal Name, Family Name, Clan Name.

24-Jan-2017 05:16:46 - Last edited on 24-Jan-2017 05:18:35 by Hguoh

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Voraiya

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Raleirosen said :
Swolllliosis said :
Nor does having Pontifex or Legatus, make you the highest ranking person in the Zarosian army. I felt a great disturbance in w42... as if dozens of roleplayers suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

W42? Is a role play world. Isn't that the world that a lot of male players are very hostile to each other for whatever reason. They are even more hostile when come to the girls. And the girls dress like total sluts and laugh/ignore/act like a total bitch at guys who tried to flirt with them????

24-Jan-2017 05:25:18

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