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A Mighty

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I knew Sliske had something up his sleeve! Though JMods claim he is going to give the SoJ away... if he "gives" it to himself, that doesn't count, does it? I mean, he already has it...

And if he tries to pull something like this in the finale, the other gods will temporarily team up to kill him. I have no doubt about that.

But then... Who exactly gets the SoJ?

What if THAT is Sliske's plan? Start the next god war in earnest, directly over the SoJ? Perhaps he sacrifices himself to keep the other gods occupied while Zaros attempts his plan? If that is what his motivation is anyway? (It's just the most prevalent theory...)

Oh, Sliske...

To those cursed by war and pest, Come into the light of Armadyl and rest. This is the law of Armadyl.

09-Feb-2016 15:03:38 - Last edited on 09-Feb-2016 15:04:27 by A Mighty

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2014

Roland Lyons

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sir eos lee said :
Just realized: The Godless should also be on the board with a score of -1.
They took part in the Cabbage Facepunch event, and lost as well. Just take it off Vorago's score since he seems to be repping them at the moment. Even if he isn't truly affiliated.

I will protect Gielinor. Zaros has no love for its people.

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09-Feb-2016 15:37:02

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2022

Kemtros

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Roland Lyons said :
sir eos lee said :
Just realized: The Godless should also be on the board with a score of -1.
They took part in the Cabbage Facepunch event, and lost as well. Just take it off Vorago's score since he seems to be repping them at the moment. Even if he isn't truly affiliated.

That or separate the scores, so Vorago gets his own spot, while the Godless are in -1. It would give Vorago reason to pick up their slack.

09-Feb-2016 16:41:31

Abanderped

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Sliske

Sliske has one kill and two wins. The kill is obvious: at the end of the Fifth age (or the beginning of the Sixth, whatever floats your boat), Sliske killed Guthix. However, the two wins are a matter of concern.

One theory states that Sliske granted himself these two wins for the deaths of Bandos and Tuska. Both Gods were killed after the announcement of his tournament, but not at his [Sliske's] hands. Remember that it's Sliske's tournament and therefore his rules. This is, in my opinion, the most viable theory regarding the two wins.

Another theory states that Sliske counts the events of Missing, Presumed Death and Dishonour Among Thieves as wins for him. However, there's no losses on the board which justify this theory.

Ichtlarin
,
Zaros
and
Seren

These three Gods have apparently earned their place on the Scoreboard, yet have not yet done anything to earn points for the tournament.

10-Feb-2016 15:59:45

Abanderped

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Saradomin
and
Zamorak

Saradomin defeated Zamorak in the Battle of Lumbridge (World Event 1). This accounts for Saradomin's win and Zamorak's loss.

Armadyl
and
Bandos

Armadyl killed Bandos in The Bird and the Beast (World Event 2). This accounts for Armadyl's kill and Bandos' death.

Brassica Prime
and
Marimbo

Brassica Prime defeated Marimbo in the Cabbage Facepunch Bonanza (World Event 3). This accounts for Brassica's win and Marimbo's loss.

Vorago
and
Tuska

Vorago killed Tuska in Tuska Comes (World Event 4). This accounts for Vorago's kill and Tuska's death.

You might ask: why is Vorago on the Scoreboard? Well, simply because Sliske has invited him. If you enter Vorago's lair right now while being able to see into the Shadow Realm, you'll see Sliske standing in front of Vorago. He will tell you that he has decided to invite Vorago because of the fact he killed Tuska.

The next question that might come up, is: Why is the Godless-sign next to Vorago on the Scoreboard? Well, this is because Vorago was the Champion of the Godless during WE4, which was when he killed Tuska and thus earned the points. He might not be aligned to them, but he did get the kill in their name.

10-Feb-2016 16:00:04

Abanderped

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There are some more questions to be answered, though.

1. Why aren't the Dragonkin and V on the Scoreboard?
This is a very fair question. In Hero's Welcome, V returns to Gielinor and is almost immediately killed by the Dragonkin. This definitely counts as a God kill, for V is certainly a God. Yet why isn't this documented on the Scoreboard?

One explanation might be that Sliske wasn't aware of V's arrival to Gielinor. V was only here for a short amount of time, and he was killed immediately afterwards. Although I find this theory hard to believe, it might be an explanation.

I am more inclined to believe that Sliske wouldn't invite the Dragonkin to join his tournament because he has already sufficiently angered them in the past. Remember how Sliske had used Strisath, the Dragonkin he had captured, to steal the Staff of Armadyl and subsequently find the Stone of Jas, which started this whole thing? Inviting the Dragonkin to his tournament might've been a little too dangerous for Sliske.

Another theory is that the death of V is not at all linkable to the Stone of Jas or Sliske's tournament, and that's why it's not accounted for on the Scoreboard. However, the same could be said for the Guthix' Death, World Event 1 (Battle of Lumbridge) and World Event 4 (Tuska Comes). World Event 2 and 3 are, however, clearly linked to the tournament. I will try and defend this theory by proving (or at least attempt to) why the other beforementioned events should actually count for points.

Guthix' death
Sliske's rules, so his count.. Also, the tournament was his masterplan and this was needed to set it up, so it must count.

Battle of Lumbridge
The Battle of Lumbridge was a battle between Saradomin and Zamorak. Both are contenders in the tournament and thus this counts.

Tuska Comes
Although Tuska and the Godless were not in it for the points, the other factions were. Thus it must count.

10-Feb-2016 16:00:23

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2015

Apotheostate

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Kemtros said :
Roland Lyons said :
sir eos lee said :
Just realized: The Godless should also be on the board with a score of -1.
They took part in the Cabbage Facepunch event, and lost as well. Just take it off Vorago's score since he seems to be repping them at the moment. Even if he isn't truly affiliated.

That or separate the scores, so Vorago gets his own spot, while the Godless are in -1. It would give Vorago reason to pick up their slack.

Vorago does not necessarily seek to kill gods, he only seeks to defend Gelienor against any threat that might face it. So a god that isn't a direct threat (like, say, Brassica Prime or Marimbo) probably wouldn't be a target for Vorago. However, gods that DO threaten the planet (I'd argue that, considering the size of the crater they left behind from a minor skirmish, Zamorak and Saradomin would fall into this category) would probably be targets.

Sliske himself is a complete wildcard, so my question is would Vorago target Sliske? Zamorak previously used the Stone of Jas to cause mass destruction in Forinthry, what's to stop Sliske from deciding that doing the same would be amusing?

All in all I think Vorago is a pretty cool character and I hope he features in some future quests. It would nice to be able to side with him, assuming he forgives me for pounding his face in with a hammer a few dozen times. We should die for the things we believe in
Not live our lives in the dark - self-deceiving

10-Feb-2016 16:12:00

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2022

Kemtros

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If he wouldn't consider Brassica or Marimbo threats, then all the more reason to make a separate score for the Godless faction as a whole, since they were concerned with Marimbo and Brassica. Maybe Kara-Meir, because while Holstein was the representative, he's an Emissary, so it would be awkward to put him there, and he only came in as a substitute for Kara-Meir, who had already lost, and she would make sense for the contest.

Sliske said Vorago didn't say much, but it does seem like Vorago wants to be in the game for some reason. He may not target Sliske, but I could see Vorago's priority being just keeping the Stone out of anyone else's hands in the first place.

10-Feb-2016 16:37:57

Mar

2015

Apotheostate

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Kemtros said :
-2k char snip-

I'm not really sure why Vorago would play into Sliske's game though. If he wanted the Stone of Jas I imagine he could overpower Sliske fairly easily, being as he's unkillable and can channel the Anima Mundi to boost his already massive power. Maybe he sees it as a way to kill two birds with one stone and take out some of the gods that are threatening a new god war and perhaps get the Stone at the same time, assuming Sliske actually gives the Stone to the winner (something that I somewhat doubt is going to happen).

As for the Godless's involvement in CFPB I'd say they were included more to satisfy popular player demand rather than to meet canon, but of course I can't say for certain. I just feel like the entire event should have been irrelevant to the Godless's cause, since it has no real effect on... Well, anything really. It isn't like BoL where you had two gods who both seem to want their ideologies asserted over Gielinor duking it out over a source of divine power, or Tuska Comes where you had a god that actually seeked to destroy Gielinor. In CFPB it really wouldn't have mattered if either god had won since their ideologies are so harmless compared to the other gods, and they weren't really fighting over anything important anyways. We should die for the things we believe in
Not live our lives in the dark - self-deceiving

10-Feb-2016 17:02:06 - Last edited on 10-Feb-2016 17:05:49 by Apotheostate

Jan

2018

Quael

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Kemtros said :
If he wouldn't consider Brassica or Marimbo threats, then all the more reason to make a separate score for the Godless faction as a whole, since they were concerned with Marimbo and Brassica. Maybe Kara-Meir, because while Holstein was the representative, he's an Emissary, so it would be awkward to put him there, and he only came in as a substitute for Kara-Meir, who had already lost, and she would make sense for the contest.

Sliske said Vorago didn't say much, but it does seem like Vorago wants to be in the game for some reason. He may not target Sliske, but I could see Vorago's priority being just keeping the Stone out of anyone else's hands in the first place.

Instead it was an interference of the faction and not an actual party towards the "Battle" of Marimbo and Brassica. Remember they stated they wanted to interfere and break the score of both "battling" faction. That was a result of party crashing and maybe Sliske doesn't see it like that at all. Vorago was the champion of the Godless for Tuska come, world event 3, and i can imagine he would have them as a necessary ally when needed. So It make sense that Sliske added him under the Godless banner, as he is Gielinor last line of defense if the Godless manages to weaken anything he can't get due to some anti-anima interference.

Vorago is his own being towards the contest, only under the Godless symbol, but that doesn't mean it is for the godless, it is for Gielinor (Which like the godless, want to protect it.) Also not all Godless view all the gods as threats, only the hardliners are, like Kara-Meir.

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10-Feb-2016 17:31:52 - Last edited on 10-Feb-2016 17:34:41 by Quael

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