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Ascertes

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Blizzardy said :
Ascertes said :
...I honestly never put 2 and 2 together. The question is though what is this mysterious thing assuming that they are in fact one and the same? Maybe it's an artifact?

It occurred to me a little while ago, Elder Gods already had other means and the rift seems to release a different kind of energy (It could perhaps come from outside our current universe)

True, they had other means like the Sword. But it almost sounds sentient...The Kharid-ib for example can speak to people and it's the soul of a god...maybe it's a god? -Ascertes, King of all the Hallowlands and the Everchosen of Saradomin.

25-Jul-2015 02:28:18

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Blizzardy

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Ascertes said :
Blizzardy said :
Ascertes said :
...I honestly never put 2 and 2 together. The question is though what is this mysterious thing assuming that they are in fact one and the same? Maybe it's an artifact?

It occurred to me a little while ago, Elder Gods already had other means and the rift seems to release a different kind of energy (It could perhaps come from outside our current universe)

True, they had other means like the Sword. But it almost sounds sentient...The Kharid-ib for example can speak to people and it's the soul of a god...maybe it's a god?

The energy being emitted does not seem like Divine energy, it could be something within the Abyss or perhaps further beyond.

25-Jul-2015 02:29:41

Ascertes

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Blizzardy said :
Ascertes said :
Blizzardy said :
Ascertes said :
...I honestly never put 2 and 2 together. The question is though what is this mysterious thing assuming that they are in fact one and the same? Maybe it's an artifact?

It occurred to me a little while ago, Elder Gods already had other means and the rift seems to release a different kind of energy (It could perhaps come from outside our current universe)

True, they had other means like the Sword. But it almost sounds sentient...The Kharid-ib for example can speak to people and it's the soul of a god...maybe it's a god?

The energy being emitted does not seem like Divine energy, it could be something within the Abyss or perhaps further beyond.

Since it deals with teleporting it would almost have to have something to do with the abyss. Was the abyss created by the Elders? or has it always just existed? Don't remember. -Ascertes, King of all the Hallowlands and the Everchosen of Saradomin.

25-Jul-2015 02:41:40

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Blizzardy

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There is nothing ingame that specifically says, however Zaros says the Abyss is where the remnants from previous Universes goes so it implies to Abyss is older.

25-Jul-2015 02:43:47

Ascertes

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Blizzardy said :
There is nothing ingame that specifically says, however Zaros says the Abyss is where the remnants from previous Universes goes so it implies to Abyss is older.

That would probably mean it's some sort of extension of the abyss. For example the portal on the top of the Slayer tower looks similar to the schism on Terragard. Black with red energy emanating...

Think we can conclude it's something closely tied to the abyss? -Ascertes, King of all the Hallowlands and the Everchosen of Saradomin.

25-Jul-2015 02:47:28

Last Prophet

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Alternatively, the voices could be, in a word, entirely in our heads .

This isn't unheard of in the real world, and under even less 'magical' circumstances.

Reports of ghost sightings and disembodied voices appearing to those with no prior history of psychological illness have been chalked up to mere magnetic disturbances. Those who do not suffer from catatonic schizophrenia can be made to experience these same schizophrenic hallucinations through electroconvulsive therapy (kind of a misnomer, if you ask me.) Conversely, the symptoms of catatonia can be temporarily alleviated through the same. Very science-y stuff, really, but it all points to a receptivity to electromagnetic currents.

It would surprise you just how fragile the psyche is. In my humble opinion, it would not be an untenable theory to conclude that these 'voices' may just be manifestations of the interaction between mind and tremendous magical energy.

Just my 2 gp. Take or leave.

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25-Jul-2015 02:48:59 - Last edited on 25-Jul-2015 02:50:21 by Last Prophet

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Blizzardy

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Ascertes said :
Blizzardy said :
There is nothing ingame that specifically says, however Zaros says the Abyss is where the remnants from previous Universes goes so it implies to Abyss is older.

That would probably mean it's some sort of extension of the abyss. For example the portal on the top of the Slayer tower looks similar to the schism on Terragard. Black with red energy emanating...

Think we can conclude it's something closely tied to the abyss?

I would pin it to anything there is not any strong evidence to support it with, just spitballing ideas.

25-Jul-2015 12:48:52

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Blizzardy

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Last Prophet said :
Alternatively, the voices could be, in a word, entirely in our heads .

This isn't unheard of in the real world, and under even less 'magical' circumstances.

Reports of ghost sightings and disembodied voices appearing to those with no prior history of psychological illness have been chalked up to mere magnetic disturbances. Those who do not suffer from catatonic schizophrenia can be made to experience these same schizophrenic hallucinations through electroconvulsive therapy (kind of a misnomer, if you ask me.) Conversely, the symptoms of catatonia can be temporarily alleviated through the same. Very science-y stuff, really, but it all points to a receptivity to electromagnetic currents.

It would surprise you just how fragile the psyche is. In my humble opinion, it would not be an untenable theory to conclude that these 'voices' may just be manifestations of the interaction between mind and tremendous magical energy.

Just my 2 gp. Take or leave.

Plausible, but 3 seperate people have heard the whispers Us, Bilrach and Robert the strong.

25-Jul-2015 12:49:54

Hguoh

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I believe the Rift/Schism is essentially the Elder Gods' entrance/exit into a given plane. Imagine your typical inter-planar traveller like push a pin through two sheets of paper. Comparatively, the Elder Gods would amount to taking those same two sheets of paper and shoving a sword through them instead of pin. The hole's gonna be much bigger and harder to cover up/ignore than the pin's hole.

08-Oct-2015 04:06:56

Tlamovec

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Portals aren't source of energy, actually they often require high amount of outside energy to work at all, or are inert passage. Unless they are connected to very energetical plane which leaks power itself through portal.

And while there is strange amount of astral/cosmic/divine/chaotical energy in abyss, prob'ly originating from energetical time/space remains of previous worlds, I don't think that generic abyss portal would make what happens in Daemonheim/Teragard. We can actually store/deposit energy to Abyss, as Xenia did.

It's said that under Demonheim is something so horrible and impassable that it would make player (who is flirting with death and is used to see torture, soul destruction and worst monstrosities and atrocities ever made on daily basis) mad. While Zammy has hideout under this, he doesn't have to go through the horror, he most likely uses a way around it. And this black/red energy in Teragard portal would indicate that's rather evil energy in work there.

I just wonder how Teragard magisters would control such powerful evil. Perhaps they use just a very small fraction of it, possible to control.

Worst that T3 Bandos at peak of his madness could make was Yu'biusk , worst that T4 Zammy + soj could make was wildy. Nomad's thing and Zaro's chthonians/vampires were ugly things too, but player could deal with it. He could even see Mah, which possibly even Amascut couldn't bear. How powerful a god would have to be to make such evil that's supposed to be down there? Either elder gods, or very high power and very mad T2, which I doubt there can be, lest should we know about him already.

Unless, oc, the portal itself is such a god of crazy energy, perhaps the 6th elder one?If Mah could stillborn, maybe he didn't born at all, not able to lay egg before, but being elder god still exist as power, even far more damaged, and thus crazier, than Mah. Yet dunno why his mouthpiece is in Lumby and not Heim, but he could have crawled a bit off site over time...

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