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Half Centaur
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I don't see how this is complicated.
Yes, Mah obviously created Seren and Zaros in the context of two genders- while Seren and Zaros probably weren't aware of this initially, what with being the only sentient beings on Freneskae and all, but Mah evidently did- as she did create the Mahjarrat with biological sexes later.
They're literally made of crystal with no internal physiology to speak of, and we've seen Zaros's original/current form naked - he's not outwardly "male" either.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?
I don't see how this is complicated.
Yes, Mah obviously created Seren and Zaros in the context of two genders- while Seren and Zaros probably weren't aware of this initially, what with being the only sentient beings on Freneskae and all, but Mah evidently did- as she did create the Mahjarrat with biological sexes later.
They're literally made of crystal with no internal physiology to speak of, and we've seen Zaros's original/current form naked - he's not outwardly "male" either.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?
04-Dec-2016 11:28:35 - Last edited on 04-Dec-2016 11:30:27 by Wahisietel
Wahisietel
said
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Half Centaur said :
I don't see how this is complicated.
Yes, Mah obviously created Seren and Zaros in the context of two genders- while Seren and Zaros probably weren't aware of this initially, what with being the only sentient beings on Freneskae and all, but Mah evidently did- as she did create the Mahjarrat with biological sexes later.
They're literally made of crystal with no internal physiology to speak of, and we've seen Zaros's original/current form naked - he's not outwardly "male" either.
Although they have no reproductive anatomy, Seren and Zaros still seem have decidedly "feminine" and "masculine" traits, respectively- voice, figure, and possibly even garb (Seren wears a corseted dress whereas Zaros wears an armored robe), to name a few. Although it's not definitive, given Mah seems to have a concept of gender (as indicated by the existence of male and female Mahjarrat), it's possible Seren and Zaros may (or may not) be feminine and masculine beings, respectively.
That being said, it's important to keep in mind that all we can be certain of is what has been explicitly stated- if even that (Who else can remember a few quests that entailed deception or misinformation?). The only reason this thread has anything going on in it is because the lore discussed is ambiguous. It's better to enjoy this opportunity to speculate rather than prematurely assume there's any right answer at this point. I reserve the right to relentlessly edit this post many, many times over.
Half Centaur said :
I don't see how this is complicated.
Yes, Mah obviously created Seren and Zaros in the context of two genders- while Seren and Zaros probably weren't aware of this initially, what with being the only sentient beings on Freneskae and all, but Mah evidently did- as she did create the Mahjarrat with biological sexes later.
They're literally made of crystal with no internal physiology to speak of, and we've seen Zaros's original/current form naked - he's not outwardly "male" either.
Although they have no reproductive anatomy, Seren and Zaros still seem have decidedly "feminine" and "masculine" traits, respectively- voice, figure, and possibly even garb (Seren wears a corseted dress whereas Zaros wears an armored robe), to name a few. Although it's not definitive, given Mah seems to have a concept of gender (as indicated by the existence of male and female Mahjarrat), it's possible Seren and Zaros may (or may not) be feminine and masculine beings, respectively.
That being said, it's important to keep in mind that all we can be certain of is what has been explicitly stated- if even that (Who else can remember a few quests that entailed deception or misinformation?). The only reason this thread has anything going on in it is because the lore discussed is ambiguous. It's better to enjoy this opportunity to speculate rather than prematurely assume there's any right answer at this point. I reserve the right to relentlessly edit this post many, many times over.
05-Dec-2016 06:24:32
Wahisietel
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Half Centaur said :
I don't see how this is complicated.
Yes, Mah obviously created Seren and Zaros in the context of two genders- while Seren and Zaros probably weren't aware of this initially, what with being the only sentient beings on Freneskae and all, but Mah evidently did- as she did create the Mahjarrat with biological sexes later.
They're literally made of crystal with no internal physiology to speak of, and we've seen Zaros's original/current form naked - he's not outwardly "male" either.
That's the gods, which is why I said gender. Mahjarrat have biological sex though. Hence the reproduction. "We call it being a hero"
Half Centaur said :
I don't see how this is complicated.
Yes, Mah obviously created Seren and Zaros in the context of two genders- while Seren and Zaros probably weren't aware of this initially, what with being the only sentient beings on Freneskae and all, but Mah evidently did- as she did create the Mahjarrat with biological sexes later.
They're literally made of crystal with no internal physiology to speak of, and we've seen Zaros's original/current form naked - he's not outwardly "male" either.
That's the gods, which is why I said gender. Mahjarrat have biological sex though. Hence the reproduction. "We call it being a hero"
"That's interesting, we call it utter stupidity"
05-Dec-2016 07:54:29
Niadgan
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Wahisietel said :
Half Centaur said :
I don't see how this is complicated.
Yes, Mah obviously created Seren and Zaros in the context of two genders- while Seren and Zaros probably weren't aware of this initially, what with being the only sentient beings on Freneskae and all, but Mah evidently did- as she did create the Mahjarrat with biological sexes later.
They're literally made of crystal with no internal physiology to speak of, and we've seen Zaros's original/current form naked - he's not outwardly "male" either.
Although they have no reproductive anatomy, Seren and Zaros still seem have decidedly "feminine" and "masculine" traits, respectively- voice, figure, and possibly even garb (Seren wears a corseted dress whereas Zaros wears an armored robe), to name a few. Although it's not definitive, given Mah seems to have a concept of gender (as indicated by the existence of male and female Mahjarrat), it's possible Seren and Zaros may (or may not) be feminine and masculine beings, respectively.
Yes, but we've only ever seen/heard Zaros and Seren after they have met mortals, and in the case of Seren, reshaped her figure (to give herself feet, a mouth, a nose, and presumably other "assets" ), so we don't really have an accurate depiction of what they looked/sounded like originally.
Mah is an alien. Why would she make Zaros and Seren to conform to human standards of what femininity and masculinity entail? Such a thing would be irrelevant to her, especially since they presumably predate humanity. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?
Wahisietel said :
Half Centaur said :
I don't see how this is complicated.
Yes, Mah obviously created Seren and Zaros in the context of two genders- while Seren and Zaros probably weren't aware of this initially, what with being the only sentient beings on Freneskae and all, but Mah evidently did- as she did create the Mahjarrat with biological sexes later.
They're literally made of crystal with no internal physiology to speak of, and we've seen Zaros's original/current form naked - he's not outwardly "male" either.
Although they have no reproductive anatomy, Seren and Zaros still seem have decidedly "feminine" and "masculine" traits, respectively- voice, figure, and possibly even garb (Seren wears a corseted dress whereas Zaros wears an armored robe), to name a few. Although it's not definitive, given Mah seems to have a concept of gender (as indicated by the existence of male and female Mahjarrat), it's possible Seren and Zaros may (or may not) be feminine and masculine beings, respectively.
Yes, but we've only ever seen/heard Zaros and Seren after they have met mortals, and in the case of Seren, reshaped her figure (to give herself feet, a mouth, a nose, and presumably other "assets" ), so we don't really have an accurate depiction of what they looked/sounded like originally.
Mah is an alien. Why would she make Zaros and Seren to conform to human standards of what femininity and masculinity entail? Such a thing would be irrelevant to her, especially since they presumably predate humanity. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?
05-Dec-2016 13:38:21 - Last edited on 05-Dec-2016 13:38:56 by Wahisietel
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