RuneScape Forum Archive | Makeover Mage, a shapeshifter?

Oct

2005

Wahisietel

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If it's in the game, it's canon unless otherwise stated. And Makeover Mage is involved in two quests, so (s)he is canon

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24-Apr-2016 11:13:03

Solanumtinkr

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He/she/it is canon, the question is has anyone else used their services?

There was a rumour once that Princesses Alice of Treasure Hunter was really Prince Anlaf looking for a new way to seize the throne. Or to just run way from it all. I mean what kind of assassins would look for Prince Anlaf as a Princess in a Runescape game show?

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24-Apr-2016 20:13:37

Darelzel

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Solanumtinkr said :
He/she/it is canon, the question is has anyone else used their services?

There was a rumour once that Princesses Alice of Treasure Hunter was really Prince Anlaf looking for a new way to seize the throne. Or to just run way from it all. I mean what kind of assassins would look for Prince Anlaf as a Princess in a Runescape game show?

That would be an interesting place to hide, given that Alice might not be considered 'lore'.

Then again, Yelps wasn't considered 'lore' either until The Mighty Fall. So it's possible Alice might end up being lore, too. For now, though, she's just the mascot for Treasure Hunter who rarely speaks to us and has a vague backstory about being bored royalty. Whether she truly has any connection to any established Gielinor royal families has yet to be seen.

30-Sep-2016 18:09:02

Darelzel

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Solanumtinkr said :
He/she/it is canon, the question is has anyone else used their services?

A very good question. And this might lead to questions about just what the Makeover Mage's ethics are. Is the Mage picky about his/her clients? If a client is a wanted fugitive from justice, would the Mage help them or turn them in?

Of course, in our case, very few people even notice or care if we change skin color or gender, or any other aspect of our appearances. They just use different pronouns or titles (sir/madam/ma'am, man/woman, milord/milady, young man/young lady, etcetera) so either their memories are affected by our change or it's no big deal to them.

30-Sep-2016 18:13:55

Jan

2021

AesirWarrior

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... I don't see how the makeover mage isn't canon. Because his (just going to use male pronouns for simplicity's sake) purpose is mainly gameplay related? Oh, well then half the game is non-canon.

I'd like to point out that he is limited to human form. Unlike other shapeshifters it doesn't seem like he can transform into another species. There are loads of people more skilled than him. He found some random amulet and memorised the spell, that hardly seems like a master. A master would know far more than that. So, yeah, I'd consider him a dabbler.

Side Note: What's the difference between shapeshifting and transmogrification? Is Malignius turning us into a toadstool considered shapeshifting? -

I have noticed your kind does tend to blindly stumble forward towards danger simply because it exists. What is your word for that?

- We call it being a hero.

30-Sep-2016 20:28:52

Solanumtinkr

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That's an interesting question, though don't forget the makeover mage also knows how to make people into goblins at least temporarily. Though I personally think the temporary bit it pure game play mechanics to stop people running about as goblins. Before you could blink people would be asking for Goblin armour and weapons all the way to tier 90! O_o

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Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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30-Sep-2016 20:44:05

Maiden China

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AesirWarrior said :
... I don't see how the makeover mage isn't canon. Because his (just going to use male pronouns for simplicity's sake) purpose is mainly gameplay related? Oh, well then half the game is non-canon I would say over 90% of any game is noncanon, but that seems not to be a popular opinion
in mandarin the male pronoun can be used for either gender if the gender is unknown or unimportant Carn

01-Oct-2016 02:35:29

Dec

2020

Sepulchre

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It's all canon, you just don't know how to fit it in properly. Unimaginative I say!

Also, in general fiction, Shapeshifting is the ability to change yourself to look like another living being. Transmogrification is the ability to change oneself or another to look like an inanimate object. A

World Guardian

must learn to find

Balance

in themselves.
Only then can they

Control

themselves and forge their own

Fate .

01-Oct-2016 05:49:09

Maiden China

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I always want things to be as 'real' as possible. In aSoIaF most of everything is very realistic... it just also adds in some dragons, some possibly real gods, some magic... but the base of everything is as realistic as anything 'irl'

your version of canon requires the entire base of the game to be magic-ified... to the extent that eating a cabbage will actually save you from dying of damage caused by weapons, to the extent that weapons dont like chop off your arm or anything... instead they canonically do damage that can be measured in numbers and everyone in the game has this device on them that lets them know exactly how much more numbers of damage they can take before dying

I just don't want a world like that. And yes, i know I'm making a caricature of your argument, but you wouldnt see how ridiculous the idea seems to me if I just use your own examples back at you

you said once, I am fairly sure, that solomon's store was (or could be) canon in the idea that you have some sort of aura about you that makes people see something different than what's actually there. could be, yes. maybe it's normal to not react when someone looks somewhat like a dragonkin. but my version is that that's all gameplay. Carn

01-Oct-2016 08:49:40

Jan

2021

AesirWarrior

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Maiden China said :
AesirWarrior said :
... I don't see how the makeover mage isn't canon. Because his (just going to use male pronouns for simplicity's sake) purpose is mainly gameplay related? Oh, well then half the game is non-canon I would say over 90% of any game is noncanon, but that seems not to be a popular opinion
in mandarin the male pronoun can be used for either gender if the gender is unknown or unimportant

I agree that there's a seperation between gameplay and story, and of course there's a lot of stuff that should be considered non-canon, but I don't believe the make-over mage should be one of them. He has a role in at least two quests, and an established backstory. What I do agree is not canon though is that people don't seem to notice we change gender. -

I have noticed your kind does tend to blindly stumble forward towards danger simply because it exists. What is your word for that?

- We call it being a hero.

01-Oct-2016 12:39:03 - Last edited on 01-Oct-2016 12:56:02 by AesirWarrior

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