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VILE39

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According to the transcript of Death of Chivalry as shown on the Runescape wiki:

Even if the World Guardian (the player character) refuse to hand over the Wand of Resurrection to Saradomin, the latter will nonetheless manage to snatch the wand away from the W.G. Saradomin would then claim that the W.G.'s immunity against gods "is not beyond the reach" of a god like Saradomin.

So, is this supposed to be canon? If yes, then what exactly is the limits of the W.G.'s immunity against gods? Deathless I see, but even immortals will not escape my wrath!

12-Jan-2017 04:28:07

Hguoh

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The Word Guardian ability reduces the impact of divine power on us, it does not completely annul it. All that scene means is that Saradomin used a spell against us that would have smashed a normal human into a fine paste against the wall (as opposed to just knocking them back like it did to us).

12-Jan-2017 04:40:13

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Summerleaf

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Hguoh said :
The Word Guardian ability reduces the impact of divine power on us, it does not completely annul it. All that scene means is that Saradomin used a spell against us that would have smashed a normal human into a fine paste against the wall (as opposed to just knocking them back like it did to us).

^this.

Also: Death to Saradomin.

12-Jan-2017 05:04:35

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Lego Miester

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VILE39 said :
According to the transcript of Death of Chivalry as shown on the Runescape wiki:

Even if the World Guardian (the player character) refuse to hand over the Wand of Resurrection to Saradomin, the latter will nonetheless manage to snatch the wand away from the W.G. Saradomin would then claim that the W.G.'s immunity against gods "is not beyond the reach" of a god like Saradomin.

So, is this supposed to be canon? If yes, then what exactly is the limits of the W.G.'s immunity against gods?

I interpret it at least that they're not able to use their, in d&d terms, "god level spell slots." But they can still fire at us like regular old spellcasters or grow big and try to step on us. In that incident I think he just managed to make us instinctively duck and drop the wand, which he then telegrabs. Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
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12-Jan-2017 06:20:09

Maiden China

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Lego Miester said :
VILE39 said :
According to the transcript of Death of Chivalry as shown on the Runescape wiki:

Even if the World Guardian (the player character) refuse to hand over the Wand of Resurrection to Saradomin, the latter will nonetheless manage to snatch the wand away from the W.G. Saradomin would then claim that the W.G.'s immunity against gods "is not beyond the reach" of a god like Saradomin.

So, is this supposed to be canon? If yes, then what exactly is the limits of the W.G.'s immunity against gods?

I interpret it at least that they're not able to use their, in d&d terms, "god level spell slots." But they can still fire at us like regular old spellcasters or grow big and try to step on us. In that incident I think he just managed to make us instinctively duck and drop the wand, which he then telegrabs. in that way, the immunity is rather useless

even if their magical attacs to nothing to you, they can just direct those attacks at your environment (destroying the earth under you, creating a storm, setting the entire area ablaze) and ... fire is fire, no? if he throws fire at you and uses his god magic to make it a million degrees hotter than normal fire, how is there a check that sees it's god magic and removes the god-enhancement?
nothing makes any sense Carn

12-Jan-2017 08:13:41

Padomenes

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Hguoh said :
The Word Guardian ability reduces the impact of divine power on us, it does not completely annul it. All that scene means is that Saradomin used a spell against us that would have smashed a normal human into a fine paste against the wall (as opposed to just knocking them back like it did to us). You forget that a mod stated he didn't cast it with the intent to kill us, but because we were unwilling to help. Otherwise it would have been much bigger. This means he measured to make sure he had just the right amount to do what had to be done when it was being casted at the same time. Saradomin was trying to help Sir Owen in his intentions, and you offended his values of being unwilling to do so.

Summerleaf said :
Hguoh said :
The Word Guardian ability reduces the impact of divine power on us, it does not completely annul it. All that scene means is that Saradomin used a spell against us that would have smashed a normal human into a fine paste against the wall (as opposed to just knocking them back like it did to us).

^this.

Also: Death to Saradomin. How about 'death' to Saradomin-haters instead who are the worst and most sadistic judgmental sociopaths in this community? Completely devoid of all empathy and loving to watch people die yourselves, as soon as he shows redeemable qualities all it would do is disappoint you that it would take away "the fun".

What's the point in claiming your a "Serenist" anyway when everything you believe in or do is the total antithetical opposite in every imaginable way. You would be a better Bandosian faction member. Yes you aren't your god but also at the same time you are certainly no Serenist.

0 forgiveness for any wrongdoings and instead punishment regardless with no mercy?

12-Jan-2017 08:29:37 - Last edited on 12-Jan-2017 09:36:46 by Padomenes

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2013

ZAmorakZaros

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Maiden China said :
Lego Miester said :
VILE39 said :
According to the transcript of Death of Chivalry as shown on the Runescape wiki:

Even if the World Guardian (the player character) refuse to hand over the Wand of Resurrection to Saradomin, the latter will nonetheless manage to snatch the wand away from the W.G. Saradomin would then claim that the W.G.'s immunity against gods "is not beyond the reach" of a god like Saradomin.

So, is this supposed to be canon? If yes, then what exactly is the limits of the W.G.'s immunity against gods?

I interpret it at least that they're not able to use their, in d&d terms, "god level spell slots." But they can still fire at us like regular old spellcasters or grow big and try to step on us. In that incident I think he just managed to make us instinctively duck and drop the wand, which he then telegrabs. in that way, the immunity is rather useless

even if their magical attacs to nothing to you, they can just direct those attacks at your environment (destroying the earth under you, creating a storm, setting the entire area ablaze) and ... fire is fire, no? if he throws fire at you and uses his god magic to make it a million degrees hotter than normal fire, how is there a check that sees it's god magic and removes the god-enhancement?
nothing makes any sense
Welll... I do not think destroying the earth under helps, we can endure storms, we can stand on fires and seem quite fire resistant. Though they may use our only weakness... Make the ceiling fall on us. Luckily they do not know of it and even if they did, we can keep coming back NO
I do not ship ZamorakxZaros.
I follow them. And Marimbo, the best t5 god.

12-Jan-2017 10:39:46

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ZAmorakZaros

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Padomenes said :

Summerleaf said :
Hguoh said :
The Word Guardian ability reduces the impact of divine power on us, it does not completely annul it. All that scene means is that Saradomin used a spell against us that would have smashed a normal human into a fine paste against the wall (as opposed to just knocking them back like it did to us).

^this.

Also: Death to Saradomin.

0 forgiveness for any wrongdoings and instead punishment regardless with no mercy?
Just like Saradomin with Zamorak

NO
I do not ship ZamorakxZaros.
I follow them. And Marimbo, the best t5 god.

12-Jan-2017 10:42:36

Padomenes

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ZAmorakZaros said :
Padomenes said :

Summerleaf said :
Hguoh said :
The Word Guardian ability reduces the impact of divine power on us, it does not completely annul it. All that scene means is that Saradomin used a spell against us that would have smashed a normal human into a fine paste against the wall (as opposed to just knocking them back like it did to us).

^this.

Also: Death to Saradomin.

0 forgiveness for any wrongdoings and instead punishment regardless with no mercy?
Just like Saradomin with Zamorak

Saradomin over Zamorak is over viewpoints rather than only actions, he even acknowledges on DOC that Zamorak wouldn't be as bad as dawn. I have the impression of a possibility though including through what Seren says about redeeming him, that they could be trying to create a plot-line to question whether you are going to be a hypocrite and be blinded so strongly by hate/judgement as a person that you will deprive somebody of any redemption? Even when it is clearly there, or if you can prove yourself better(above that) and allow for it.

If you ask for a character to be redeemable then you need to look outside of your hate-bubble, otherwise you will not see those qualities which show. That is why his "positive lore" was locked from players hostile to him.

The writing of Bartemius Crouch Sr. the justiciar in Harry Potter(Not his son that turned bad) was an example of a character who learnt to be "ruthless" in some situations due to dealing with corruption/crime plus alot of dangers, and yet still wasn't bad. He was even more ruthless than Saradomin could say in maintaining order/safety when it came to it.

12-Jan-2017 11:17:31 - Last edited on 12-Jan-2017 11:26:22 by Padomenes

Hguoh

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Padomenes said :
Hguoh said :
The Word Guardian ability reduces the impact of divine power on us, it does not completely annul it. All that scene means is that Saradomin used a spell against us that would have smashed a normal human into a fine paste against the wall (as opposed to just knocking them back like it did to us). You forget that a mod stated he didn't cast it with the intent to kill us, but because we were unwilling to help. Otherwise it would have been much bigger. This means he measured to make sure he had just the right amount to do what had to be done when it was being casted at the same time. Saradomin was trying to help Sir Owen in his intentions, and you offended his values of being unwilling to do so.

Pads, your paranoia is showing.

I never said Saradomin intended to kill us. Having attempted to teleport us at the end of TWW and observed the effect the explosion at the start of the BoL had on us, it is expected that Saradomin would have some understanding of our abilities.

What I actually said was that the attack Saradomin used would have been strong enough to squash any other human into a pile of blood and viscera, which it would have had to be to overcome our World Guardian powers. This is an entirely accurate statement.

12-Jan-2017 12:09:46

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