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Mar

2023

mastercast3r

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Montinevvra said :
Do it. He's a trucker so he only sees things when he has time. As I said, he knows how I feel about extremist. Unlike you, he does not feel the need to shove what he is in people's faces. Nor did Loretta, a friend of mine. I only found out about what she had beneath her skirt during a dinner in a conversation she had with a friend about the procedures she was going through. Never made any difference to me or any of her other friends. She never shouted to the world what she was.

You want to know what is seriously messed up with you calling me transphobic? I am an xxy. Think about what that means.

13-Jun-2023 03:21:35 - Last edited on 13-Jun-2023 03:24:16 by mastercast3r

Montinevvra

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mastercast3r said :
He's a trucker so he only sees things when he has time.
So send him an email, you coward. If you're so confident that your beliefs won't hurt him or your relationship, put your money where your mouth is. Does he have a throwaway email? I'll do it.

mastercast3r said :
Unlike you, he does not feel the need to shove what he is in people's faces.
Oh yeah? What is my gender identity? My sexual orientation? My AGAB? What shape are my genitals? You should know these if I've been shoving them down your throat.

mastercast3r said :
Nor did Loretta, a friend of mine.
So, in your one interaction with An Actual Trans Person (TM)(R), none of the things you're complaining about happened. Think about what that means.

mastercast3r said :
You want to know what is seriously messed up with you calling me transphobic? I am an xxy. Think about what that means.
I never called you transphobic, but I will call you a liar, you liar. Nevertheless, what that means is that your genetics don't determine whether or not you're transphobic, your choices and actions do.

13-Jun-2023 04:40:02

Mar

2023

mastercast3r

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Montinevvra said :

So send him an email, you coward. We discuss this stuff in person, face to face, not hiding behind a screen. THAT is how cowards do it.

Montinevvra said :
Oh yeah? What is my gender identity? My sexual orientation? My AGAB? What shape are my genitals? You should know these if I've been shoving them down your throat. I did not say you were shoving your equipment down my throat, although that does strongly suggest what equipment you have. I said you were shoving your attitude in my face.

Montinevvra said :
So, in your one interaction with An Actual Trans Person (TM)(R), none of the things you're complaining about happened. Think about what that means. As I said, they did not throw it in my face the way you and your cronies are doing in the game now. You should do what you do behind closed doors not in front of children.

Montinevvra said :
I never called you transphobic, but I will call you a liar, you liar. Nevertheless, what that means is that your genetics don't determine whether or not you're transphobic, your choices and actions do. And yours prove you are heterophobia. As I said, you guys are pushing things too far and the backlash will come. Back down before the LGBT+ community gets hurt. YOU are not the majority of either the worlds population or even the LGBT+ community, so its time to grow up.

13-Jun-2023 04:47:07 - Last edited on 13-Jun-2023 04:49:02 by mastercast3r

Jan

2023

Zeffirino

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Them being a small community is not really a relevant point. All marginalised groups are historically oppressed by a majority.

In saying that one does not need to participate in the event if you feel its not your type of thing just like no one expects you to do the Christmas event if for e.g you didn't celebrate Christmas irl. That isn't shoving anything in anyones faces imo

13-Jun-2023 16:27:01

Mar

2023

mastercast3r

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The problem is the event can be ignored, but the rainbow chat command can not be unless we give up a good part of the game. I have no problem with a small portion of the players having things like that, but it should not be forced on others. Look at the rainbow wig. Its small and hardly noticeable if people choose to ignore it. YET they complain it is not visible enough. Now the chat is there and everyone has to see it unless they turn off ALL chat commands.

Also, there is no Christmas event. Christmas is for one religion and all the stuff we celebrate at that time could just as easily be part of any religion. The original event was called Yule and it existed thousands of years before that religion took it over. It celebrates the longest night of the year, not a day a certain religion figure was NOT born on. What we celebrate is more like the original Yule.

13-Jun-2023 20:11:38 - Last edited on 13-Jun-2023 20:15:41 by mastercast3r

Jan

2023

Zeffirino

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Historical contexts aside, the point was that one can not celebrate it if they really want to, much like with the pride event.

The chat commands as you said can be turned off but again I don't see how an extra chat style is an issue when there are existing chat commands.

Let's keep this thread respectful regardless.

17-Jun-2023 16:04:59

Mar

2023

mastercast3r

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The entire purpose is to force it upon the vast majority. That is what they are constantly doing, to showcase how much power they have.

The vast majority of us say "live your life and Ill live mine", but they insist that we bow to their demands every single day. We can even play a game without it being forced down our throats. The only choices is total surrender and giving up our way of life.

Why should their choice in the way they lived their life force us to give up our way of life?

Its all about control. They want us to admit they have total control over everyone else.

All I ask for is the ability to play my game the way I want to without being forced to bow to their way of life.

EVERYONE

knows what the rainbow means. It used to be a symbol of the creator according to several religions, but now it is a symbol of a tiny group taking control over the world.

All it would take is to make it where you could choose to ignore this one thing, without having to go totally radio silent. Let them have their symbol but let us ignore it and still have the ability to use chat commands.

Homophobic or transphobic is where people fear, or hate a group because of the way they are. I do not fear them, nor do I hate them. I just want them to leave me to my game.

18-Jun-2023 02:03:59 - Last edited on 18-Jun-2023 02:14:38 by mastercast3r

Mar

2023

mastercast3r

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Zeffirino said :
like no one expects you to do the Christmas event if for e.g you didn't celebrate Christmas irl. That isn't shoving anything in anyones faces imo

Let me explain the differences between Yule and Pride.

1) Yule is 2 weeks and done.
Pride is a month plus the rainbow is permanent.
2) Yule is celebrated by a vast majority of people in one religion or another.
Pride is celebrated by 11% of the American population plus similar numbers in a few other countries.
3) Yule is a celebration of children more than anything else.
Pride month is a celebration of a small group controlling the vast majority.
4) Yule is a celebration of differences.
Pride is a demand for everyone to be like them.

There are more, but these were the ones I thought of on the spot.

19-Jun-2023 05:31:06 - Last edited on 19-Jun-2023 05:32:17 by mastercast3r

Nov

2023

Rabbitmeds

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Personally, I have not felt like anything has been 'shoved' in my face and don't mind other people, however small and marginalized their community is, to celebrate who they are or how far their community has come. The idea that the celebration is about a small group controlling the 'vast majority' is frankly, absurd.

Although this is minority, these individuals often face an increased risk of suicide, especially in youth. As an anecdote, my sister is a child psychologist/therapist for LGBTQ+ individuals in the Western U.S. - sadly, three of the teens she has been working with killed themselves in the last four months. These kids didn't come from supportive families, often faced abuse for who they were, and faced societal challenges that would seem trivial to us as adults- but kids need a supportive community, too. The youngest was 12 years old.

I urge people, before wagging their fingers and yelling their rights are being infringed upon, just look at the data and try to understand this community. Honestly, I myself struggle at times to be supportive- would I voice that? Hell no. These are things I need to learn about instead of judging others for. I recommend people do the same.

Here are some resources if you're curious about the data;
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/science-news/2021/researchers-find-disparities-in-suicide-risk-among-lesbian-gay-and-bisexual-adults

https://www.thetrevorproject.org/survey-2022/

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