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Dilbert2001
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Impornant said :
Buddy, they've been manipulating the poll results since somewhere around Wardings non-release. It's blatant if you're paying attention.


They could have created a separate Saling Lock In poll and run it for a normal seven day like they did with the previous polls regarding the "new skill" and manipulated the result and told us it passed with 95% approval rating. They didn't perhaps because polling really doesn't mean a thing to OSRS, other than it is being used as a marketing tool (and not a successful one in reality).

You don't have to look very far away, just look at how they told us they nerfed Dragon Scale Dus from NMZ reward and claimed it as a result base on a poll (an invisible one) from Poll 80.

Previously, they polled Ruinous Powers and said it "passed with flying colors" and hyped it as the biggest update in 2023 for 6 months since Winter Summit 2022 and then suddenly they cancelled it absolutely without a poll a month before it was supposed to be released citing power creep out of nowhere. The moral of the story is even Sailing passed the poll there is still no guaranteed any part of it will be released with or without a poll due to similar power creeps or whatever reason they can give us later. ;)

Polling really doesn't mean a thing, just sit back, get a cup of tea and enjoy the journey to the release of the make of Sailing, and the drama that comes with it. :)

30-Aug-2023 17:13:46

Dilbert2001
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The OSRS has spoken up:

"Summits are an exciting time, packed with cool upcoming content. Naturally, Summit polls have a lot more visibility, and this lets us get a more representative result from the community.


Our new polling system lets us greenlight multiple projects at once, so that our development teams can get to work much earlier. This also gives them plenty of time to get players involved in the design process, which makes a big difference.


As for why Sailing appeared in the middle of the poll – we’d already talked a lot about Sailing in the run-up to the Summer Summit, so we wanted to give Varlamore, our surprise reveal, the spotlight. Varlamore also had a few separate components to poll, so we felt it was better to group them all together."


What we have learned is OSRS wanted to poll Sailing with all the other Summer Summit proposals because of "visibility". This coincides with my observation (Page 1, Post 8) on the dwindling interests in Sailing. If they polled Sailing separately, far more than likely we would only see a pretty low participation rate on the voting booth (maybe near the 100k mark compared to over 190k when it started out?)

Another interesting thing we have learned is Sailing passed only because of the spike up on Yes vote in the last day. From the graph Hourly Voting graph they showed us, seemingly Sailing would have failed if the Poll ended less than 24 hours earlier:

https://cdn.runescape.com/assets/img/external/oldschool/2023/newsposts/2023-08-31/Hour.png#

31-Aug-2023 17:35:41

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Jeremy Cheng said :
Now that sailing had its poll rigged, it confirms that more future content that
we
don't want will be forced into the game.


"We" means "you", who are "we"? And what is that "future content" you want?

I'm curious as to what conspiracy Jagex is preparing for individual players who predict what will happen in the future.
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31-Aug-2023 21:56:17

Bruce Waayne
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Jeremy Cheng said :
Now that sailing had its poll rigged, it confirms that more future content that we don't want will be forced into the game.


eoc when???
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02-Sep-2023 01:27:21

Dilbert2001
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The entire OSRS Polling System is a big conspiracy itself already. What getting polled and what not are all dictated by the OSRS team "advised" by a small group of selected players. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to tell us what they don't poll will never pass.

Then we have failed polls getting repolled many times until they passed. Remember d claws? They were never meant to be polled from the get go. Mod Mat K and company promised they would never be in the game (much like pay to win OSRS Bond) in a couple of livestreams at the early year of OSRS. Then they shove the promises under the rug and polled d-claws (and of course other things like pay to win Bonds). D claws poll failed, but they kept repolling it until it finally passed. Mod Ash actually said the similar thing about GIM before it even went into polling. On Twitter, Mod Ash said before the GIM poll it was guaranteed to come out even if it failed the poll as they would just keep repolling it until it passed.

They could also just totally ignore passed polls, like Ruinous Powers, and cancel them at will. They didn't even repoll it.

They could also just push ahead failed polls like Partnership/MTX Polls and implement them anyway, again without even repolling it.

The OSRS Polling System is the "conspiracy" itself already if someone has to complain about conspiracy. So why bother to complain about the duration of the Sailing Poll when even if it failed, it would be repolled and repolled again until it passed.

Just enjoy Sailing the "new" "skill" whenever it comes out. :)

03-Sep-2023 19:03:55

Bruce Waayne
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Dilbert2001 said :
The entire OSRS Polling System is a big conspiracy itself already. What getting polled and what not are all dictated by the OSRS team "advised" by a small group of selected players. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to tell us what they don't poll will never pass.

Then we have failed polls getting repolled many times until they passed. Remember d claws? They were never meant to be polled from the get go. Mod Mat K and company promised they would never be in the game (much like pay to win OSRS Bond) in a couple of livestreams at the early year of OSRS. Then they shove the promises under the rug and polled d-claws (and of course other things like pay to win Bonds). D claws poll failed, but they kept repolling it until it finally passed. Mod Ash actually said the similar thing about GIM before it even went into polling. On Twitter, Mod Ash said before the GIM poll it was guaranteed to come out even if it failed the poll as they would just keep repolling it until it passed.

They could also just totally ignore passed polls, like Ruinous Powers, and cancel them at will. They didn't even repoll it.

They could also just push ahead failed polls like Partnership/MTX Polls and implement them anyway, again without even repolling it.

The OSRS Polling System is the "conspiracy" itself already if someone has to complain about conspiracy. So why bother to complain about the duration of the Sailing Poll when even if it failed, it would be repolled and repolled again until it passed.

Just enjoy Sailing the "new" "skill" whenever it comes out. :)


*Puts fanboy glasses on*

Noh ur rong dewd itz kalled demokrahcee pouls nebar rigged u rong
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04-Sep-2023 03:06:58

Dilbert2001
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OSRS said they have a "Polling" system, but they never "kalled" it "demorkrahcee pouls".

You may "kall" them communist (pretending to be demorkahcee&quot ;) , but to OSRS, it is called Integrity (in their own dictionary). :)

04-Sep-2023 16:40:23

Dilbert2001
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Bruce Waayne said :
Guys i heard were getting heros pass in OSRS, whens it being added?


If they call it Leagues Pass it may pass the poll... or after Jagex is sold to the new owner, perhaps we won't have to Poll anymore. It will be all integrity updates to the new owner's likings with no poll system.

Maybe they will change the new skill from Sailing to Selling.

12-Sep-2023 01:06:50

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