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mastercast3r
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I am wondering if you guys think the new skill will be mainly for pvp or pvm. It is obvious that it will be one or the other since there is nothing in what they have said so far that would make it the slight bit interesting, and have indicating its going to have a lot of combat involvement, likely clan focused.

I am wondering if the new skill will be a way to bring in a form of the rs3 citadel. Perhaps it would be "if you want to do solo, you will likely be killed by clans frequently, so just join a clan."

19-May-2023 18:22:54 - Last edited on 19-May-2023 18:34:25 by mastercast3r

Dilbert2001
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Neither. "Sailing" is just a vague concept. There is absolutely no content designed for it, and unlikely so this year.

What OSRS doing now is just casting a wide net, hoping some fish will bite. If they are very lucky to catch something, the future of this "skill" will prominently be designed by the new players. If they want pvp, then it will be pvp. If they want pvm then there will be something like Thalassus or Agoroth. If they think buring the boat is cool, then of course firemaking on the ship is huuugggeee and fun. :D

19-May-2023 18:42:29

mastercast3r
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First off, they have said that it involves you getting a boat or ship based on your level but no sign that you will have to earn these levels by doing any skills.

Secondly, what they have already said is that it be used for pvp.

Third they have said the large ship will be use by large groups of players, which will likely mean that large groups will get huge amounts of exps just for being part of the clan. Just like Dung in rs2, this would mean clans would get much faster exps than soloist.

This is not necessarily something against the skill, but it is obvious that it is more likely to be something for combat than non.

So what are you thoughts on if it will be primarily use for pvm or pvp?

Seriously though, how could it be anything other than a combat skill based on the mindsets of the jmods?

19-May-2023 20:09:35 - Last edited on 19-May-2023 20:12:02 by mastercast3r

mastercast3r
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Seriously though, what do we know about it.
1) There will be cannons.
2) There will be pvp
3) there will be monsters
4) there will be several ship sizes, small, med, and huge. No large
5) The larger ships will have multiple players.
6) There is not a lot of space to have the ships traveling in.

With that last, we know there is not going to be a lot of exploring. The game map only so many squares. It is so many squares wide and so many square tall. A decent amount of it is taken up by things that are suppose to be different levels. Much of that space is taken up by land, leaving not a lot of space for ships. A good chuck of that will be ports. Part of it will be set aside as a kind of sea going wild. That does not leave much space for earning exps doing ship work.

A long time ago, one of the jmods said that all updates had to be connected in some way to combat, its just the nature of the beast.

With all of that, its only logical to ask if it is going to primarily be pvp or pvm.

19-May-2023 20:25:41 - Last edited on 19-May-2023 20:27:08 by mastercast3r

Dilbert2001
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OSRS's very own words:

"The prospect of Sailing PvP has sparked the dev team’s interest, but from our initial discussions we’ve decided that if it were to be implemented it would have to be opt-in only. Please bear in mind that this feature is entirely dependent on how much time we have and how much the community actually wants it – if the majority of players tell us we should be focussing on other aspects of the design, we’ll do that. We’d really like to hear your suggestions regarding Sailing PvP so we can prioritise accordingly."


https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/adding-a-new-skill-sailing-refinement-survey--stages-summary-?oldschool=1#_ga=2.137273456.1160787519.1684526085-356519043.1684526085

Just like what I wrote, the OSRS team clearly said it is up to the how much time and how much the community actually wants pvp, but they aren't talking about it now.

Remember, this year we will only see one beta, and it will only be on the navigation mechanics of Sailing.

19-May-2023 21:05:00

Dilbert2001
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mastercast3r said :
Dilbert2001 said :
how much the community actually wants pvp So you think this will be mainly pvp?

As I wrote on Post 2 of this thread, it will be up to the "community" when they find the time to start looking at it (Post 6 of this thread), which means probably next year because they said this year they will only be working on the beta for the navigation mechanics.

If they can find pvp community before they find the time to look at actual game content next year, they may focus of pvp. If they find firemaking or agility community then they may add firemaking content or an agility course on the ship. :D

19-May-2023 22:21:00

mastercast3r
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Montinevvra said :
There's no reason to believe it will be "mainly pvp" or mainly combat focused. You either seriously misread the blog post or are deliberately misrepresenting what it's saying. History of the game, my friend. Its a simple question. There is no right or wrong answer. What do you think it will have?

Every skill is linked to combat. Even construction, a skill intended to be a money sink. So why would this be different. Considering that all the jmods are hard core pkers, I can not see it not supporting pvping and even in the latest post about it, they said it WOULD contain pvp. So why would it not be reasonable to expect it to have a lot of pvp content.

Dilbert2001 said :
If they can find pvp community before they find the time to look at actual game content next year, they may focus of pvp. If they find firemaking or agility community then they may add firemaking content or an agility course on the ship. :D How do you find a community that does not exist. There is no firemaking or agility community. There is a pvm community and there is a pvp community. The skilling community has been pretty much chased away.

19-May-2023 22:47:24 - Last edited on 19-May-2023 22:49:09 by mastercast3r

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