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Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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Has anybody done the Chambers of Xeric Changes survey? I was going to but stopped when I saw OSRS didn't release a privacy statement on how they will use our data. For those of you have done the survey, can you tell us what key questions are being asked so we can add to the discussion? Anyway, without referring to the survey, there are still plenty of things worth discussing:

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/chambers-of-xeric-potential-tweaks--changes?oldschool=1#

"Let's not waste any time, our proposal for changes to scouting and scaling missed the mark for many of you last week."


So OSRS admitted their proposal missed their mark, but we need to know what "mark" was expected first. That's my first question I want to discuss.

"Ultimately, we want to deliver meaningful improvements to Chambers of Xeric before 2023 is out (ideally in time for you to enjoy them in the latter part of Leagues IV - Trailblazer Reloaded), but the team working on these changes cannot realistically deliver a full scouting overhaul and improvements to the various rooms within the timeframe. Waiting to deploy both at once would mean delaying things even longer and we think both you and us would rather see something than nothing."


This sounds like quite a pessimistic take, as CoX Changes are advertised on the Summer Summit Roadmap for an Autumn release. Now that we know OSRS said they can't even deliver meaningful improvements to CoX before 2023 is out. although they are still
planning on releasing a partial CoX Changes update this year.

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Upcoming_updates#/media/File:Summer_Summit_2023-_August_19th_(3).png

11-Oct-2023 16:35:56

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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"While our course of action now is to try and touch up the 'bad' parts of Chambers rather than allowing you to circumvent them with custom layouts, we still want to explore custom layouts in the future since there are some needs that can't be met with any of these changes (speedrun layouts, for example), "


Custom layouts are bad, just scratch that idea or even the dumbest bots are going to exploit it and every bot is going to get tbows.

"The aim of these is to make some less popular rooms feel like more of a choice than a chore, so that when we come back to visiting custom raid layouts, it feels a little less like we're offering you a way to circumvent the 'bad' bits of the raid and instead like you're being given agency over a whole range of actual choices."


Why do all the rooms have to be popular? You can't make everything equally popular or there won't be any diversity. Again, custom layouts are dumb. Why not add a new difficulty to CoX if you want something new and more balanced, instead of messing with the old mechanics and make everything "popular" and "custom" so even the dumbest bots can exploit?

General comment:

I think OSRS is being brutally honest they won't be able to deliver the Summer Summit Roadmap Headline CoX Changes update this year, let alone Autum as advertised, so why waste time the remaining year on a patchwork "update", especially when they seeming are still struggling with what the "mark" is supposed to be and they missed? They should have learned from the development of Forestry, which was touted as a big headline update in Winter Summit last year, only that it still wasn't delivered in October 2023, again missing the re-re-revised schedule that pushed it to September (which is obviously an impossibility now in October).

Your thoughts?

11-Oct-2023 16:36:31 - Last edited on 11-Oct-2023 17:00:52 by Dilbert2001

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