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Rishinger V
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Title says it all.

The real world cost of bonds isn't increasing yet the price of bonds is always going up on the grand exchange.

If Jagex actually want to limit the gold coming into the game via real world trading at the like the price should be fixed because as time goes buy the people buying bonds are just pumping more and more gold into the game for the exact same amount of money irl.

13-Oct-2023 16:17:05

Rishinger V
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When bonds first came in, they were $9.99 AUD for 2 million gold, now they're $9.99 for 9.2 million gold and that gold amount is just going to keep increasing more and more.

So as the gold gained from selling bonds increases real world traders are going to offer more gold for less money, meaning that they are going to be farming even more gold than normal in order to get the same amount of cash they used to.

And as this continues it's naturally going to bring in more and more gold into the game, ruining the economy even worse than it already has been.

13-Oct-2023 16:38:24

Tenebri
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no if there is a set price for bonds that never changes. that means there is a set price for converting real life money to gp. and jagex do not want that! that would be very bad for jagex. and they would liable for many things they do not want (aka underage gambling)

so definitely not

its why they had to stop doing the charity event "well of goodwill" as it gave a direct conversion of gp to £$€


but even if that wasnt the case this would also be very bad idea. but theres no need to go into that due to the above reason. and also because of that one reason this will never happen.
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13-Oct-2023 19:42:12 - Last edited on 13-Oct-2023 19:42:52 by Tenebri

Rishinger V
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....how exactly would a set price make them liable for underage gambling?

This isn't like a lootbox where you're getting a random reward for the money you pay, you would be getting a set amount of gold for real life money, hell the way it is now where the gold you get for a bond constantly fluctuates is more like gambling .

14-Oct-2023 03:16:29

Bruce Waayne
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Tenebri said :
no if there is a set price for bonds that never changes. that means there is a set price for converting real life money to gp. and jagex do not want that! that would be very bad for jagex. and they would liable for many things they do not want (aka underage gambling)

so definitely not

its why they had to stop doing the charity event "well of goodwill" as it gave a direct conversion of gp to £$€


but even if that wasnt the case this would also be very bad idea. but theres no need to go into that due to the above reason. and also because of that one reason this will never happen.


TH is already underage gambling.
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15-Oct-2023 02:09:46

Dilbert2001
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Bruce Waayne said :
Tenebri said :
no if there is a set price for bonds that never changes. that means there is a set price for converting real life money to gp. and jagex do not want that! that would be very bad for jagex. and they would liable for many things they do not want (aka underage gambling)

so definitely not

its why they had to stop doing the charity event "well of goodwill" as it gave a direct conversion of gp to £$€


but even if that wasnt the case this would also be very bad idea. but theres no need to go into that due to the above reason. and also because of that one reason this will never happen.


TH is already underage gambling.


Absolutely wrong! You need to be over 18 to buy TH keys with real money. Meanwhile, DMing or hosted gambling via Emir Arena and such are underage gambling in OSRS.

15-Oct-2023 02:21:57

Th3 Good Guy

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It's important to note that the in-game prices of items, including bonds, on the Grand Exchange in RuneScape can fluctuate due to various factors, including player demand, in-game economic conditions, and changes in the game's mechanics. The price of bonds can be influenced by factors like seasonal events, updates to the game, and changes in player behavior. It's also influenced by the supply and demand for bonds on the Grand Exchange.

Jagex typically allows the in-game economy to operate based on player interactions and decisions, and they often make adjustments to the game's mechanics and policies in response to economic trends and issues like real-world trading.

The price of bonds in RuneScape, when purchased with real money, is generally stable, as you've mentioned. The real-world cost remains consistent, and bonds are a way for players to exchange real-world currency for in-game currency or membership.

If you're concerned about the rising cost of bonds in the game or have suggestions for Jagex, you can consider providing feedback through their official channels or forums. Jagex often listens to player feedback and takes it into account when making decisions about in-game policies and economics. However, they also aim to maintain a balance between in-game mechanics and real-world trading to ensure a healthy in-game economy.
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16-Oct-2023 02:46:16

Rishinger V
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Lmao what?
The Streamer Item returns is the most recent example showing that Jagex infact, do not listen to their players.

They've been saying for years that it's literally impossible to return items within the game due to "technical limitations" yet when one minor streamer admits they had no account security and got hacked they restore literally everything.

And the relation there to this post is that no, jagex do NOT listen to the players, ever.
You can bring up any sort of concerns you want but unless you have substantial influence good luck getting them to even look at it.

16-Oct-2023 05:11:24

Tenebri
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Rishinger V said :
....how exactly would a set price make them liable for underage gambling?

.


right now its a game. the ingame currency has 0 value.
it being 0 value means anything considered "gambling" such as dming lms etc is fine under uk law as nothing of value is being gambled. its just a game

having an actual conversion say £1.00 = 1m that is a direct conversion that doesnt change. this now makes anything in runescape that can be considered gambling (such as dming/ lms etc) gambling. and as there are players under the legal age in this game. they will be liable.


the higher ups many years ago have said they cant equate real value to ingame items (gp included) this is what having a set price for bonds will do



Rishinger V said :


This isn't like a lootbox where you're getting a random reward for the money you pay, you would be getting a set amount of gold for real life money, hell the way it is now where the gold you get for a bond constantly fluctuates is more like gambling .


yes i know im not talking lootboxes. im talking about having a fixed conversion on items for real money. something they have said they cant do (anymore)
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16-Oct-2023 09:24:29 - Last edited on 16-Oct-2023 09:29:58 by Tenebri

Runefish
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean by 'brings gold into the game'?

For example, 1 bond is £4.99 GBP, selling one bond today would net 8.5m. That 8.5m is not randomly generated, it's other players money that was already in the game.

Could someone please correct me if I am wrong, I don't understand how bonds add money into OSRS that wasn't already there.

16-Oct-2023 12:41:00

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