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Ogre Monkey
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Congratulations to everyone working on Runescape! There you go. There’s the “compliment” part.


First off I want to say that a lot of the game IS fun. But there is so much that is just plain stupid and it literally seems like there’s no other reason for it other than to intentionally piss off the player. Seriously. I’ve heard other say it too, not just me. Here are some prime examples:


Keepsake keys not usable in some areas? Why do you have to go to a bank area to use them?

Why do we just stop fishing for no reason? NOTHING changes, not my level, no buffs, nothing. Why do I simply stop and put my finger in my eye?

Why is it that a LOT of the times when Iuse a buff in the fishing hub suddenly, and I mean instantly, the blue and green jellyfish change to either the other color or an electrified version of one?

Why must I use an edged weapon to clear spider webs? You’re gonna tell me I can’t burn them away with a spell or tear through them with a staff or something?

Why do some things continue to “burn their timer” while logged out (such as dwarven instinct aura)?

The whole “building” prototypes with invention. (I don’t mean perfecting them). There’s zero chance of failure so what’s the point? You simply wish to waste our time again.

The wiki says that the TzHaar Hero (lava flow mine) “As part of the Mining and Smithing Rework, gems are no longer obtained while mining. Therefore, this buff no longer appears to have any effect. “ so why not remove it so it’s not wasting a bonus chance of something actually useful?

No xp/reputation for making masterwork items? That stuff takes hours (literally) and you get almost ZERO xp and you get ZERO respect for making it. Why? You should get mad respect at least.

How do people place dummies in a spot that is NOT “legal” yet when I try to do it I can’t? It makes no snese how one person can do it if another can’t. I’m not meaning to sound like it’s JUST me either. I know it’s the same for everyone.
Thanks for your time, I never seem to have enough of my own.

08-Jun-2023 14:18:46 - Last edited on 08-Jun-2023 15:04:10 by Ogre Monkey

Ogre Monkey
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Wow, ok, I didn't realize there's a 200 character limit. Another stupid thing. I have lots more to say but Jagex doesn't want to hear it apparently. Thanks for your time, I never seem to have enough of my own.

08-Jun-2023 15:07:58 - Last edited on 08-Jun-2023 15:22:05 by Ogre Monkey

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Ogre Monkey said :
Congratulations to everyone working on Runescape! There you go. There’s the “compliment” part.


This thread has been moved to the Rants Forum. One sentence of compliment in a whole post of rants does not make the thread eligible for the Compliments Forum.
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08-Jun-2023 16:47:48

RELATlONSHlP
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Tren said :
Ogre Monkey said :
Congratulations to everyone working on Runescape! There you go. There’s the “compliment” part.


This thread has been moved to the Rants Forum. One sentence of compliment in a whole post of rants does not make the thread eligible for the Compliments Forum.


What percentage of a post must be complimentary in order to remain in the compliment forum? 50%? 50.1%?

08-Jun-2023 16:59:23

Tenebri
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keepsake keys - this guarantees its a safe area. thats always been my assumption as to why. if not people would do it anywhere then complain when they die or whatever. or if it gets interrupted may cause issues of loosing the key / item you were going to keepsake. going to a bank is really no big deal.

fishing - anti bot mechanic. very old one.

buff in fishing - this would be down to what is called "negative bias" as humans we tend to notice things like this over anything else. like when you put a usb in a socket and its upside down. most people will say they do this more than getting it right first time. (when it is most likely 50/50)

webs - this one is annoying, but it is from back back back in the day. you can apply some gamer / fantasy lore to it, and the webs you are wanting to slash are made by not your regular spiders we know here. and any blunt weapon would just get caught and stuck. (like frodo in shelobs webs)

auras - they have recently changed this. maybe dwarven one was an oversight and wasnt changed

invention - its not about wasting time lol.

not been to lava flow mine, in years so no idea about this one im not sure what you are talking about :)

masterwork - this is literally a game mechanic, so there arent millions of masterwork in the game. you will only make this for the armour, not for xp. there are other methods to get xp. this is the literal reason. if this was best thing to make to gain levels / xp. then there would be so many in game and that would be very bad.

dummies - where are you trying to place them and what ones?

its a 2k limit, and most forums have some kind of character limit. this isnt out of the ordinary infact its very ordinary.
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08-Jun-2023 17:02:11

Tenebri
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RELATlONSHlP said :
Tren said :
Ogre Monkey said :
Congratulations to everyone working on Runescape! There you go. There’s the “compliment” part.


This thread has been moved to the Rants Forum. One sentence of compliment in a whole post of rants does not make the thread eligible for the Compliments Forum.


What percentage of a post must be complimentary in order to remain in the compliment forum? 50%? 50.1%?


i would say all of it.
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08-Jun-2023 17:02:34

Ogre Monkey
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Welp, my appoligize because I could not find this "Rant forum" for some reason otherwise I would have put it there (here now).

"anti-bot mechanic"? Lol. like they really need it? What is the log out timer for? I guess I'm missing something here.

"buff in fishing - this would be down to what is called "negative bias" as humans we tend to notice things like this over anything else."??? I don't understand your point. Sorry.

webs? Ok I see your point about the blunt weapons. But why can't I burn it with spells or something?

invention? Sorry but the first part "building the prototype" where you pick and choose what goes into it (the little pictures/icon or whatever) that is a waste of time because you can not fail. Zero chance. You pick until it works and it always will no matter what. Waste of time doing this step.

Dummies? ANY dummy. My roommate and I are constantly complaining that we can't put a dummy down right where we JUST had one because someone else put one down to close and now the game says that WE are to close. What? HOW can they if we can't? Lol. Rediculous.

Again, sorry for posting in the wrong forum. That's the only reason I did. And why I put the "Congratulations....." part in the "Compliments forum".

Oh yeah, the USB? I 90% try to put it in upside down. lol
Thanks for your time, I never seem to have enough of my own.

08-Jun-2023 19:12:53

Tenebri
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yes we do need anti bot mechanics. the log out timer has nothing to do with bots, bots are not effected by it....

look up "negative bias" and there will be a proper explanation to what i said.

webs - make a post in existing game content and ask for it to be updated. and also magic? maybe its immune to magic.

invention - definitely not a waste of time, it gives a lot of xp, idk what level you are in invention but if you get an invention potion and drink it you will be able to make more blueprints, and most likely gain more levels. its definitely not a waste of time. it also fits in with the skill, of us making the invention item. we wont just know it.

dummies - why do it in a place with loads of people if that becomes an issue? its most likely down to "pid" and people placing at the same time, pid determines whos dummy goes down and whos doesnt.

Ogre Monkey said :
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Oh yeah, the USB? I 90% try to put it in upside down. lol


this is what i was talking about with the negative bias, you most likely do not put it in upside down 90% of the time.
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08-Jun-2023 19:24:22

Ogre Monkey
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I'm confused again/still. How are bots NOT effected by a log out timer but they ARE effected by the simply stopping for no reason at all? I don't see any difference. Sorry.


"Negative bias"? Yes definitely me. I hate to say it but my life has been a lot of crap and I've become one of those anoyancess that see negativities first. I really wish I didn't but that's the way my life has sculpted me thanks to society and things.

The part of invention I'm talking about is the very first step in researching a new plan. NOT the part that gives a lot of XP for getting it arranged properly. Before that. Unless I totally missed it, I saw ZERO XP for the first step.

As for the dummies, well like a lot of others we do them at the Grand Exchange for the boosts all the time going off. Only reason.

I hope you don't take my complaints and questions personally. I do honestly appreciate your feedback. No offense intended :)
Thanks for your time, I never seem to have enough of my own.

08-Jun-2023 19:38:35

Tenebri
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Ogre Monkey said :
I'm confused again/still. How are bots NOT effected by a log out timer but they ARE effected by the simply stopping for no reason at all? I don't see any difference. Sorry.

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well bots are constantly playing the game, the log out timer wont effect them, because they are coded to be constantly playing.

they got effected by the fishing spot. when they use to be coded by just mouse movement. making fishing spot be random. stopped that script from working. (obviouslt bot scripts now are more advanced, but this does still stop that type of old script)

the log out timer only works if you stop playing so yeah wont effect a bot as they are constantly playing

no i dont see them as questions. but sometimes people are unaware why or how things are like they are. and having that information is helpful
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