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SS1Gohon
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It seems Jagex does everything in it's power to make it's player base hate them, from extraordinary grind to bots and taxes and everything else in between like nerfing the Oddments you receive for double prizes and removing the 50% off oddment items, most of this was done out of corporate greed to further add salt to the wound.

So having massive grind for simple items or even complex items that aren't tradable leaves people grinding for weeks and months, like the Sceptre of the Gods which recently got a bad luck mitigation change for the better is a great example of Jagex actually doing something that benefits the players, unlike the Hero pass drama.

I recently brought up the fact that the automatic potion sipper (Potion Reservoir) is another item that is locked behind way too much grind, someone replied saying that its' really over powered and I disagree, it allows end game users only to use what is the most simplistic item in the game in my opinion other than maybe logs or a fish, all it does is allow you to not have to constantly click every 6 minutes for potions and instead allow you to click once every 9 minutes so you don't log out.

There is nothing OP about that, as a matter of fact I think it's stupid to increase the logout timer if I'm still going to have to click every 5-6 minutes to renew my potion, it defeats the entire purpose of having an increased logout timer, it's things like this that makes players question why we even play this game, 99% of games out there just let you afk 100% of the time, I actually enjoy this game and wish simplistic items like the Potion Reservoir wasn't locked behind mass grind, 80 levels in Crafting, Divination and Smithing IS ENOUGH for such a simplistic item, having another 112 levels of grind on top of that is very discouraging to players who don't wish to have such a click intensive experience especially when playing on multiple accounts, again it defeats the 10 minute logout timer completely and should be adjusted.

20-Nov-2023 01:44:15

SS1Gohon
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Like the fact that you can say well it's OP because if you happen to forget to click your potion you can die which 99% of people don't ever forget to drink their potion, but if your main concern is Melee potions then why not have a skilling Potion Reservoir at a much lower level that way we can utilize the full benefits of an extended logout timer, I don't get why players fight so much to have more of a hard time when playing games, when it comes to bossing yes for sure make the mechanics and HP high but when you're a higher level the content should generally get easier.

I'd argue that grinding 240 levels (80 Smithing Div and Crafting) thus unlocking the Invention skill should be enough grind to utilize the full benefits of logout timer through the use of the potion reservoir, I'm becoming more and more frustrated over this fact and it has in fact caused me to stop buying potions all together as the experience became far too click intensive, maybe we could even increase the potion timer to 10 minutes instead of changing the potion reservoir if that would make people happy and still have the reservoir work functionally the same except changing the sip time from 6 minutes to 10 minutes.

20-Nov-2023 01:55:41

Tenebri
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Tenebri said :
SSSavageSSS said :
So what requirement is it to buy bonds and get end game items immediately?

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this has nothing to do with this.

SSSavageSSS said :


I want and item not because it is good but because it should be common practice to use an auto potion sipper, it's not some super rare good item that will save me billions in the long run


its a game dude. thats why.

with this same logic, all axes should be usable at lvl 1. wc

all armour can be put on at lvl 1 defense.

herblore its just adding herby water with something else. all potions done lvl 1.

make soul runes lvl 1 rc. its just putting pure essense on a certain altar

its just common practice

etc


you seem to have an obsession with potion reservoir, how many threads is this now?

but you want to to be lower req because its of how useful it is.
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20-Nov-2023 11:32:14 - Last edited on 20-Nov-2023 11:33:44 by Tenebri

MineMinereoo
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Tenebri said :
Tenebri said :
SSSavageSSS said :
So what requirement is it to buy bonds and get end game items immediately?

.


this has nothing to do with this.

SSSavageSSS said :


I want and item not because it is good but because it should be common practice to use an auto potion sipper, it's not some super rare good item that will save me billions in the long run


its a game dude. thats why.

with this same logic, all axes should be usable at lvl 1. wc

all armour can be put on at lvl 1 defense.

herblore its just adding herby water with something else. all potions done lvl 1.

make soul runes lvl 1 rc. its just putting pure essense on a certain altar

its just common practice

etc


you seem to have an obsession with potion reservoir, how many threads is this now?

but you want to to be lower req because its of how useful it is.


Not because of how useful it is because of simplistic it is for the amount of grind required to get it, stop twisting my words y'all people have a problem with twisting other peoples words huh?

20-Nov-2023 16:52:59

Tenebri
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MineMinereoo said :
Tenebri said :
Tenebri said :
SSSavageSSS said :
So what requirement is it to buy bonds and get end game items immediately?

.


this has nothing to do with this.

SSSavageSSS said :


I want and item not because it is good but because it should be common practice to use an auto potion sipper, it's not some super rare good item that will save me billions in the long run


its a game dude. thats why.

with this same logic, all axes should be usable at lvl 1. wc

all armour can be put on at lvl 1 defense.

herblore its just adding herby water with something else. all potions done lvl 1.

make soul runes lvl 1 rc. its just putting pure essense on a certain altar

its just common practice

etc


you seem to have an obsession with potion reservoir, how many threads is this now?

but you want to to be lower req because its of how useful it is.


Not because of how useful it is because of simplistic it is for the amount of grind required to get it, stop twisting my words y'all people have a problem with twisting other peoples words huh?


uh huh

well ive already explained how "simplistic" things dont work for games.
you literally quoted it here right now
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20-Nov-2023 16:57:59

Tenebri
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MineMinereoo said :
So explain to me why the Reservoir is so OP then mr smarty pants


its fantastic for afk. during any skilling can be used for spirit attraction. thats incredibly helpful for afk skilling

for combat especially when learning new boss, you wont need to remember to pot up. when learning something like zuk etc thats one thing you wont need to worry about, that can be in many times the be all and end all if you succeed or die.

also for afk combat training, like necro at abyssal beasts in posd. again can not worry about drinking potions for 30+ minutes. as its done for you with this potion.

but i dont see it being op is relevant here. especially as you are saying you dont want it to be high req due to its simplicity.

but again this is a game and items like this are going to have requirements. its why you cant just hold a crystal fishing rod. you need agility levels, and to have finished loads of quests before. where as its just holding something made of crystal

but it is fantastic thats why i have so many if im online im using it!
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20-Nov-2023 17:08:24 - Last edited on 20-Nov-2023 17:11:56 by Tenebri

MineMinereoo
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Tenebri said :
MineMinereoo said :
So explain to me why the Reservoir is so OP then mr smarty pants


its fantastic for afk. during any skilling can be used for spirit attraction. thats incredibly helpful for afk skilling

for combat especially when learning new boss, you wont need to remember to pot up. when learning something like zuk etc thats one thing you wont need to worry about, that can be in many times the be all and end all if you succeed or die.

also for afk combat training, like necro at abyssal beasts in posd. again can not worry about drinking potions for 30+ minutes. as its done for you with this potion.

but i dont see it being op is relevant here. especially as you are saying you dont want it to be high req due to its simplicity.

but again this is a game and items like this are going to have requirements. its why you cant just hold a crystal fishing rod. you need agility levels, and to have finished loads of quests before. where as its just holding something made of crystal

but it is fantastic thats why i have so many if im online im using it!


Those other reqs for fishing and logs are actual meaningful because you can fish faster or cut wood faster, it's not like I can drink potions faster or for longer, it doesn't do that it simply allows me to drink potions automatically wow so OP in terms of combat on a skilling account?

Your whole argument is that it's too OP in case you forget to drink a pot in which most cases you're fine anyways, it allows one less click per rotation at bosses that's it, wow so OP, you actually lose money 99% of the time using attraction pots on reservoir so that isn't OP either, you're insane dude seek medical help immediately.

20-Nov-2023 17:37:24

MineMinereoo
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Now again you're saying at end game content is when this is most OP so why are you so scared to make it useable for people who aren't end game who don't want to grind 7000 hours for an automatic potion drinker, like as a company this doesn't make sense on a base level, you're making the most simplistic items the hardest to get while making the most OP items the easiest to get so long as you spend a bit of money, cool I'll buy 1000 potion reservoirs for 2 bonds how about that, does that satisfy your greedy nature as a company? This way I can skip the requirement to get it just like you can skip the requirement of having to boss to get end game weapons and armor that's actually OP. No? I guess one is ok but not the other huh?

20-Nov-2023 17:40:09 - Last edited on 20-Nov-2023 17:41:03 by MineMinereoo

A  Cole
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MineMinereoo said :
This way I can skip the requirement to get it just like you can skip the requirement of having to boss to get end game weapons and armor that's actually OP. No? I guess one is ok but not the other huh?
You do realise that skipping content is the quickest way to no longer playing the game?

RS brings money to Jagex by players playing for a long time.

Making things available to everyone from the moment they start the game only reduces the amount of time those players will play the game, out of both time taken to complete the game, and mental interest in the game. Players stick around longer when they know they can work towards something, and then they stick around for even longer thereafter to use what they have just earned.

The potion reservoir is a high level item because it gives players something to work towards. Why bother having skills if everything is unlocked at level 1?


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20-Nov-2023 18:35:31

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