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Oct

2023

Mineminemint

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F2P is the worst it honestly is, like Herblore for example has such great benefits that shouldn't be membership, same thing with Divination, like these 2 skills right here Perfect Juju Potions and Auto bank feature using Grace of the Elves or Porter charges makes the game so much better, unfortunately with the recent events of my main getting muted on top of all the in game prices crashing on top of all the nerfs on top of the Hero pass on top of even more MTX gouging on top of developers not caring about players or respecting the most valuable asset they have, which is time, I have decided to no longer purchase membership for this account or my other 12 accounts.

If Jagex wasn't so greedy & money hungry/gouging, if they actually cared about their game they would be doing things to help the player numbers rise, after all a healthy game is how you in turn generate revenue, making the F2P experience so horrid that the only way you can get any enjoyment out of it is to spend money is a horrible formula, I get the need to make money, but right now with such low player numbers you would think any smart developer would improve the base experience to draw in as many new players as possible to eventually sucker them into MTX or membership but they aren't even doing that, what the hell is going on here?

If you ever want me to spend money on this game again it's going to take a hell of a lot to get me back to that point and it starts with making F2P fun again, maybe lowering bond costs because I've just talked to another 15 or so people who are saying they're going to stop playing because they can't afford membership either IRL cash or GP, explain to me how it is that all other prices in the game are crashing, players are leaving left right and center yet bonds are the only thing that's rising in price, something is extremely fishy there especially after the buffs were removed from the Hero pass.

01-Oct-2023 13:57:15

Oct

2023

Mineminemint

Posts: 14 Bronze Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Like I might actually consider spending money on keys so I could earn more GP if membership were free, but even though I was spending money on bonds, on Treasure hunter and everything else I still wasn't earning enough GP to keep up with free membership, you guys have a losing strategy here and are forcing players to leave in droves, I personally know over 100 members who up and quit requesting account deletions after the Hero pass stunt you pulled.

Explain to me how any sane developer would allow this to happen, especially with a thousand other examples of the exact same strategy failing in every other game it's been implemented, like are you honest to God that stupid? Now that players are gone what is your strategy to get them back? I mean every strategy you've implemented to gain new players or court the old ones back in has failed, make the game fun then monetize afterwards, it isn't that hard of a concept to grasp is it?

Nobody is going to get on a game to grind and struggle and deal with tedious bosses and horrific RNG to think "Hey I'm going to spend money on this" because even when we do spend money, nothing gets better, we instantly regret spending $100 on this game, I remember spending $500 on this game to get some upgrades just to have it nerfed a week later, like how stupid can you honestly be, and I'm not trying to be a jerk but Jesus take a hint and listen to your consumers before you go broke or worse.

01-Oct-2023 14:04:26

Oct

2023

Mineminemint

Posts: 14 Bronze Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

And I just want to throw out there that I was playing for 8 hours a day, afk grinding, bossing and doing all my dailies such as herb runs and vis wax, I wasn't earning enough GP to keep up and I can't afford to spend any more IRL cash, and there are many players like me especially in this economy who feel the same and that's the make or break moment for this game, if Runescape/Jagex cannot adapt to their consumers needs, the game will die, you can go look at the players and there is like 3000 players daily despite the website saying 116k active players, if you look at the worlds and add them all up it's 16,973, this includes both Members and non members worlds and I highly doubt there are 100,000 players active on steam/mobile so the fact Jagex is lying about player numbers should really be concerning not only to the player baser but to investors looking to invest in this game.

If you want to sell people MTX you first have to sell them a fun and enjoyable experience because when y ou sell them a boring long ass grind and tedious fights 100% of the time then throw MTX on top of that people are just going to leave and that's become evident ever since EOC came out and that doesn't include all the other bullcrap which came in the form of heavy handed nerfs that nobody wanted which Jagex insisted was great for the game despite it having a negative effect not only in terms of revenue but also player retention.

01-Oct-2023 14:15:04

Oct

2023

Mineminemint

Posts: 14 Bronze Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

And I just want to throw out there that I was playing for 8 hours a day, afk grinding, bossing and doing all my dailies such as herb runs and vis wax, I wasn't earning enough GP to keep up and I can't afford to spend any more IRL cash, and there are many players like me especially in this economy who feel the same and that's the make or break moment for this game, if Runescape/Jagex cannot adapt to their consumers needs, the game will die, you can go look at the players and there is like 8000 membership players daily despite the website saying 116k active players, if you look at the worlds and add them all up it's 16,973, this includes both Members and non members worlds and I highly doubt there are 100,000 players active on steam/mobile so the fact Jagex is lying about player numbers should really be concerning not only to the player baser but to investors looking to invest in this game.

If you want to sell people MTX you first have to sell them a fun and enjoyable experience because when y ou sell them a boring long ass grind and tedious fights 100% of the time then throw MTX on top of that people are just going to leave and that's become evident ever since EOC came out and that doesn't include all the other bullcrap which came in the form of heavy handed nerfs that nobody wanted which Jagex insisted was great for the game despite it having a negative effect not only in terms of revenue but also player retention.

01-Oct-2023 14:15:05 - Last edited on 01-Oct-2023 14:15:46 by Mineminemint

Dec

2011

Archaeox

Posts: 53,399 Emerald Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Making F2P more fun will not increase subscriptions: rather, it will just encourage people to stay F2P for longer.

If there was a likely financial benefit to changing F2P, Jagex would undoubtedly do it, especially if they are as "greedy & money hungry/gouging" as you claim.

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01-Oct-2023 14:23:53

Jan

2008

Ladyolake

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The main thing is, most games for instance WOW you only get so much free time then its pay or you cant advance.

Runescape is one of the few Good games that have infinite f2p. The richest person is not who has the most. It is who Needs the least.

02-Oct-2023 06:10:21 - Last edited on 02-Oct-2023 06:10:40 by Ladyolake

Jan

2015

Tenebri

Posts: 39,133 Sapphire Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

ftp isnt suppose to be the best. thats why people pay membership to get the full game

however ftp in runescape takes thousands of hours to complete. so you can still play runescape for an incredibly long time and not spend a single dime. which isnt like most "free games" where it stops at certain point and there is no more progression very early on.

but what i see here is you go to a restaurant, and all the food is free. and you complain its not to your standard of food. i think theres a reddit sub called choosingbeggers

ftp over the years has had huge updates. which jagex did not need to do ever. you havent paid money for this service you are getting, yet still complain? if you dont like it, dont play it, or pay either in bonds or £$€ for membership to get a better game
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02-Oct-2023 09:44:56 - Last edited on 02-Oct-2023 09:48:27 by Tenebri

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