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Dong U Dead

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Jagex started a new thread which once again is not being manned. Forum moderators can get away with all sorts - for example choosing which threads to keep open and which threads to close, and there is nothing we can do about it, moderators know this because FMR hasn't been manned property for 1.5 years or more.

Jagex can find time making a new thread, rewriting the rules, but have no time for our issues with moderators. I find this wong. I find this concerning.

I also have a problem with how moderators get away with stuff, for example if a moderator posts on a thread that thread can not be moderated by a different moderator it needs to go through FMR, which is time concerning; plus with FMR not being manned regularly, often going months these simple issues aren't being delt with and unfairness is ripe within RSOF. It's an unfair cycle. Plus by the time Jagex do get to it it's too late, it's passed. And that's if they do anything about it.
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14-Sep-2021 11:34:25 - Last edited on 15-Sep-2021 05:54:45 by Dong U Dead

Tranq
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Tranq

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There are a couple misconceptions you have going there...

"for example if a moderator posts on a thread that thread can not be moderated by a different moderator it needs to go through FMR"


Actually it can be moderated, however it's rather respectful if the thread is being actively moderated not to step on a persons toes. However if I post on page #2 dealing with nonsense on pages #1 & #2. While new nonsense starts up after I've posted, they aren't going to wait for me to go back and sort it out. Someone else will handle the new issues.

"plus with FMR not being manned regularly, often going months these simple issues aren't being delt with and unfairness is ripe within RSOF."


This annoys us too that it isn't attended to on a more regular basis. Hopefully whatever is distracting our J-mods will soon be cleared up so that they can be more attended to. However to say things aren't being dealt with fairly. Every thread is a case by case basis, every decision is supposed to be dealt with in the manner that Jagex has laid out for us.

Just like whatever punishments people receive for cheating is a case by case basis. It's not always black and white. Nor is it about what is perceived to be fair or unfair. The FMR thread is really supposed to be about where "WE" as moderators don't follow the code of conduct, forum rules, or our internal code of conduct. Yes we're held to a different standard, it's far more stringent than to what everyone else is held to.

Many who post on forum help do so in the heat of the moment. As such they're typically angry, then when they don't get the result they were expecting, get even madder. So don't take it personally, marshal ones thoughts. If after a breather you're still certain that a moderator acted against the code of conduct by all means post on FMR for review.
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14-Sep-2021 12:23:28

Stoat King

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Tranq said :
If after a breather you're still certain that a moderator acted against the code of conduct by all means post on FMR for review.
Lol. Seriously? Why bother posting there?
You would be better off building an effigy of Mod Kari and praying to it for justice.

But I know this isnt within your remit, and it must annoy the FMods too.
After all, accusations like 'Fmods can now get away with anything' no longer admit of a response which isnt obviously laughable. For instance, 'post on FMR'.

14-Sep-2021 22:49:24

Dilbert2001
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Actually FMR should not, and probably can't be removed, due to Duties of Care and the Online Safety Bill. Online businesses like Jagex probably have to handle more serious online harms like these with their own staffs and not just volunteers in the future:

It is against the rules to use chat that is likely to upset other players, using slurs, slang words and other inappropriate phrases that target specific people or groups

Unacceptable chat includes bullying and harassment. We expect all players to treat each other with respect, and targeted ‘chat’ attacks between players will not be tolerated


They probably can remove FH rather and have serious Online Safety reports sent directly to FMR for Jmods prompt attentions.

14-Sep-2021 23:27:20

Mr Brushie

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Dilbert2001 said :
Actually FMR should not, and probably can't be removed, due to Duties of Care and the Online Safety Bill. Online businesses like Jagex probably have to handle more serious online harms like these with their own staffs and not just volunteers in the future:

It is against the rules to use chat that is likely to upset other players, using slurs, slang words and other inappropriate phrases that target specific people or groups

Unacceptable chat includes bullying and harassment. We expect all players to treat each other with respect, and targeted ‘chat’ attacks between players will not be tolerated


They probably can remove FH rather and have serious Online Safety reports sent directly to FMR for Jmods prompt attentions.

Your post has what , exactly, to do with the topic at hand?

15-Sep-2021 02:13:18

Dilbert2001
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Mr Brushie said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Actually FMR should not, and probably can't be removed, due to Duties of Care and the Online Safety Bill. Online businesses like Jagex probably have to handle more serious online harms like these with their own staffs and not just volunteers in the future:

It is against the rules to use chat that is likely to upset other players, using slurs, slang words and other inappropriate phrases that target specific people or groups

Unacceptable chat includes bullying and harassment. We expect all players to treat each other with respect, and targeted ‘chat’ attacks between players will not be tolerated


They probably can remove FH rather and have serious Online Safety reports sent directly to FMR for Jmods prompt attentions.

Your post has what , exactly, to do with the topic at hand?

Can it be clear than that? In case if you still don't see the obvious:

(1) FMR won't be removed
(2) Some Jmod has to take the Duty of Care to man FMR.

15-Sep-2021 02:53:31

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