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Team Skull
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Team Skull

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Zoeeeee said :

Keeping in mind I couldn't care less what people say or think about me. If I ever ended up falsely banned, then sure if I decided later to tell my side, people can choose to contradict everything I say. Wouldn't harm me in the slightest. But also as I've previously said, forums isn't the place for discussion of account issues such as bans.

Again, if you truly do not care, then why are you still responding? You must care if you are responding. Also, you say that you don't care now, but I understand- people rarely care what happens until it hits close to home, then they start caring. I have not seen a deviation from this concept yet.

Zoeeeee said :

As for "Perfect" no such thing.

Which was my point exactly. Don't pull the karma card unless you are perfect, which nobody is.

Zoeeeee said :

Me posting is me expressing my opinion which you obviously care about, or else as you said yourself, you wouldn't keep responding to me.

Basically, if you don't care about what I say, don't respond. Simple as that.

Did I ever say I didn't care? No, so don't put words in my mouth.

I really only care about what you're saying because you're being a jerk over it. So what if he did what you say he did? That gives you no prerogative to knock him over it. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

10-Jun-2015 11:15:36

Zoeeeee

Zoeeeee

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Team Skull said :
Again, if you truly do not care, then why are you still responding? You must care if you are responding. Also, you say that you don't care now, but I understand- people rarely care what happens until it hits close to home, then they start caring. I have not seen a deviation from this concept yet.

Caring about what people think about me and me caring enough to respond are clearly two completely different things.

Team Skull said :

Which was my point exactly. Don't pull the karma card unless you are perfect, which nobody is.


If that were the case, no one would ever use the word "Karma". Don't need to be perfect to say it. With your logic, the word Karma wouldn't exist unless there was at least one perfect person, which there isn't.

Team Skull said :

Did I ever say I didn't care? No, so don't put words in my mouth.


I said "IF"

Team Skull said :

I really only care about what you're saying because you're being a jerk over it. So what if he did what you say he did? That gives you no prerogative to knock him over it.

All I did was laugh at the hypocrisy of it all, nothing more. You or anyone else want to see it in any other way, be my guest.

10-Jun-2015 11:31:26

Team Skull
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Team Skull

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Zoeeeee said :

Caring about what people think about me and me caring enough to respond are clearly two completely different things.

If you truly did not care about what they were saying, you wouldn't be responding to it, now would you? Stop trying to act like you don't care when it's fairly obvious you do.


Zoeeeee said :

If that were the case, no one would ever use the word "Karma". Don't need to be perfect to say it. With your logic, the word Karma wouldn't exist unless there was at least one perfect person, which there isn't.

Did I ever say Karma does not exist? No, so again- don't put words in my mouth. What I AM saying is that don't go around saying "karma's a bitch ain't it?" to people when you are bound to be hit by karma yourself later on at some point in life because people WILL remember that (hell, saying that karma is a bitch in and of itself can be considered to be negative behavior). The only person that can legitimately say it to someone else is someone who is perfect, which nobody is.


Zoeeeee said :

All I did was laugh at the hypocrisy of it all, nothing more. You or anyone else want to see it in any other way, be my guest.

And so what if he is? You and nobody else have any prerogative to knock him over it. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

10-Jun-2015 12:05:00

Zoeeeee

Zoeeeee

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Team Skull said :
Did I ever say Karma does not exist? No, so again- don't put words in my mouth. What I AM saying is that don't go around saying "karma's a bitch ain't it?" to people when you are bound to be hit by karma yourself later on at some point in life because people WILL remember that (hell, saying that karma is a bitch in and of itself can be considered to be negative behavior). The only person that can legitimately say it to someone else is someone who is perfect, which nobody is.

Now look who's putting words in other peoples mouths, I didn't say what you're saying I said. I said "with your logic it doesn't exist". People can remember all they like, not like I'm trying to hide the fact that I said it or anything.


Team Skull said :

And so what if he is? You and nobody else have any prerogative to knock him over it.

You have no prerogative to knock me over what I'm saying. I guess another case of hypocrisy, you can knock me for what I'm saying but I or anyone else can't knock him for doing what he did.

10-Jun-2015 12:14:10

Team Skull
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Team Skull

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Zoeeeee said :

Now look who's putting words in other peoples mouths, I didn't say what you're saying I said.

Zoeeeee said :
This is hilarious, lol. Sounds like karma...

You weren't? That sounds EXACTLY like what I said you were saying.

Zoeeeee said :

You have no prerogative to knock me over what I'm saying. I guess another case of hypocrisy, you can knock me for what I'm saying but I or anyone else can't knock him for doing what he did.

I'm not knocking you and I have not knocked you. I'm giving you a cold hard fact. If you don't like that- tough. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

10-Jun-2015 12:36:59

Zoeeeee

Zoeeeee

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Team Skull said :
Zoeeeee said :

Now look who's putting words in other peoples mouths, I didn't say what you're saying I said.

Zoeeeee said :
This is hilarious, lol. Sounds like karma...

You weren't? That sounds EXACTLY like what I said you were saying.

Zoeeeee said :

You have no prerogative to knock me over what I'm saying. I guess another case of hypocrisy, you can knock me for what I'm saying but I or anyone else can't knock him for doing what he did.

I'm not knocking you and I have not knocked you. I'm giving you a cold hard fact. If you don't like that- tough.

Not even going to make an effort when all you're doing is misunderstanding and twisting my words, or taking things out of context and twisting it into what you think it means.

Cold hard fact = He's a hypocrite. Which is what I've been saying this whole time.

Noone has to care that I said that or that I even think that. I'm entitled to my opinion as everyone else is to theirs.

10-Jun-2015 12:45:55 - Last edited on 10-Jun-2015 12:46:42 by Zoeeeee

Mod Matthe

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ImaDumbDawg said :
Commmunity mods shouldn't be allowed to ban people. They should stick to making idiots p mods.

It is very, very rare that a JMod on the Community team would ban someone - that is done by the specialist team who handle such matters in Player Support.

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10-Jun-2015 13:27:45

HyunA

HyunA

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H alo said :
Jagex's system flags players with very efficient Xp gains as potential bots, yet actual bots are anything BUT efficient.

Why are such obvious bots camping at Seren stones for weeks and months without being caught?

Its not hard to believe that some innocent players may be mistakenly caught in the bullshit trap.

I agree that only the player who got banned knows whether or not he botted, but this just seems like one of those accidental cases.

Alternatively. Name and Shame a bot that has botted 200ms with 3 video evidences of them botting and someone actually moving them to the boss portal breaking their bot. And watch said botter get only a 2 day ban and return to botting after triple changing their rsn.

And Scouse gets a 14 day temp ban for never doing it to begin with. With remote access setup by his ISP triggering a ban???

It sucks when overeffiency and Remote Access triggers the failed anti cheating system.

And then there are overefficient players who have been using AHK for 200m summ (they are also in the top 100 ranks btw) who never got banned coz they're a top pager and "protected".

You're also protected if you're well known too. Like that guy going for 1b agility and that guy who maxed HCIM who isn't 120 dg yet. Both used 1:1 AHK and were never flagged for it.

Their anti cheating system is such a flaw and it's pretty sickening tbh.

Selective protection should not be a thing. And inconsistent banning shouldn't be either. If player A botted 7 200ms and Player B used Teamviewer for 120 mining from 99 and Player A gets a 2 day ban and Player B gets a 2 week ban. Is that really fair? Ask yourself that please.

I know friends in CPK who were in the same position scouse was in and 3 months later. Their offence was quashed and they got an apology and this was only last year where jacmob was still around and botwatch had a much higher accuracy rate when he was around.
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10-Jun-2015 13:31:59

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