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Alaska Died
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I like many of you have seen threads like this before and scrolled on by with disdain. In the past, I have seen posts on Reddit, Twitter, and the forums about this and I ignored them, Jagex has for years touted their bot busting abilities so how could it be wrong? To my dismay, I received a 2-day ban on one of my Alts for macroing. I know what many of you are thinking, "get wrecked Bottie McBots a lot" or "Jagex knows what they are doing, and only places bans on accounts they know 100% are botting or have botted in the past". Well, get ready to have your world view severely shaken... I have never used any third-party software nor downloaded any third-party clients, add-ons, or extensions, and ultimately, I am confident my appeal will be successful.

I play on as many as five accounts at one time, and I'll be the first to admit that when combined with my Twitch binges, it's a rather inefficient way to play the game. I rarely talk in-game even on my main for a number of reasons I won't discuss here, but I am playing the game actively. I'm making this post mostly to document an instance where a ban was handed out to a legitimate player-run account in the hopes it will prompt a review of how Jagex hands out these bans. Have you faced a similar issue, if so, how was it resolved? Drop a comment below or not I'm not your mom!
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18-May-2020 18:45:09 - Last edited on 18-May-2020 19:36:52 by Alaska Died

Cyanid
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Another well known person had 4 merching alts banned for macroing and had his request for appeal denied. Idk what to tell you, sucks if you never botted and are getting this treatment though, complaining on twitter seems to work for most people anyways.


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18-May-2020 20:49:28

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I have no clue what's going on... so many people I know (and have seen on Social Media), have all had their alts banned in the last 2-3 days, for 48 hours due to 'botting'. Some of these people I know would never bot, yet still got it... seems so bizarre.
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21-May-2020 07:33:25

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Minigames said :
I have no clue what's going on... so many people I know (and have seen on Social Media), have all had their alts banned in the last 2-3 days, for 48 hours due to 'botting'. Some of these people I know would never bot, yet still got it... seems so bizarre.

I just got a 48 hour mute (cut short) for absolutely no reason. Something is going on at Jagex.
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25-May-2020 06:56:04

Pachuli714
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Good. Glad to hear it. The truth is, no matter how you look at it, Alts are the damn new Bots in this game. And while you may not be using them in an illegal manner, they are viewed as such by the rest of the player base. They are invasive and solely exist to provide their owner an unfair advantage in the game. Now, apart from actually macroing, that to me is the very definition of botting.

So I'm thrilled to hear and see so many Alts now getting the boot. It's about freaking time. Of course, Jagex waited a good long while until they'd made their money from all those Alt accounts during Archaeology's release which was no surprise. The party's over though. Well, at least for now until the next big game release when Jagex again turns a blind eye to players using 5 to 20 Alts to support their main account.

27-May-2020 12:05:37

Toad
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Pachuli714 said :
Good. Glad to hear it. The truth is, no matter how you look at it, Alts are the damn new Bots in this game. And while you may not be using them in an illegal manner, they are viewed as such by the rest of the player base. They are invasive and solely exist to provide their owner an unfair advantage in the game. Now, apart from actually macroing, that to me is the very definition of botting.

So I'm thrilled to hear and see so many Alts now getting the boot. It's about freaking time. Of course, Jagex waited a good long while until they'd made their money from all those Alt accounts during Archaeology's release which was no surprise. The party's over though. Well, at least for now until the next big game release when Jagex again turns a blind eye to players using 5 to 20 Alts to support their main account.


Alts actually require effort to play though, and it's not an unfair advantage to use an alt account. Everybody can run alts, it's just you don't want to.

It's not a decision of morality or ethics, it's allowed completely within the game rules, Jagex are falsely banning alts believing people are Macroing when they aren't.

So you are aware too with diminishing player counts alts are actually healthy for the game, they consume more bonds which means increased revenue for Jagex. If you really want no alts in the game whatsoever say hello to further decreased update frequency, more expensive resources in the game, decreased world counts and even more MTX.

The active player base isn't as high as it used to be.

You are essentially saying "nobody should be allowed to play more than one account because it's unfair because I don't want to".

The reality is Alaska's alt was falsely banned and played completely within the game rules.

"Alts are viewed as such by the the rest of the player base" is also confirmation bias, it's not the case.

The majority of people I know have an alt, or an ironman.

27-May-2020 12:26:14 - Last edited on 27-May-2020 12:26:40 by Toad

4p
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Pachuli714 said :
Good. Glad to hear it. The truth is, no matter how you look at it, Alts are the damn new Bots in this game. And while you may not be using them in an illegal manner, they are viewed as such by the rest of the player base. They are invasive and solely exist to provide their owner an unfair advantage in the game. Now, apart from actually macroing, that to me is the very definition of botting.

So I'm thrilled to hear and see so many Alts now getting the boot. It's about freaking time. Of course, Jagex waited a good long while until they'd made their money from all those Alt accounts during Archaeology's release which was no surprise. The party's over though. Well, at least for now until the next big game release when Jagex again turns a blind eye to players using 5 to 20 Alts to support their main account.



Despite your personal opinion , which you are definitely entitled to hold and express, it does not break this rule and therefore the accounts should not be banned for this rule:

28-May-2020 20:17:16

4p
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Same thing happened to me too, unfortunately. Playing on a few alts at the same time, and they were all banned at the same time.

I found some information on an 'unofficial' website which suggested that 'Bot Busting (moderate)' implies it may be a manual ban from a Jagex Moderator hopping around looking for bots, and maybe even reviewing those 'false' reports which are coming in.

If any of the reports against my accounts were reviewed, it would be quite obvious that I stand there and talk to people explaining how alts work and why I was running multiple accounts.

I also received exactly the same response as you did - that Jagex have absolute proof I was using third-party software, which is against the rules, but it's only a temp ban so don't worry about it........................

I was reminded of, and direct to, the RuneScape rules and told not to do it again.
I still play on my alts, but I'm genuinely worried/anxious that they're going to be wrongfully banned again - and there's nothing I can do about it.


I understand that mistakes happen, and some bans are going to falsely be applied, but it's very unfair to tell people to stop doing what you are doing and never do it ever again or you will be permanently banned ... when you're doing nothing wrong.

A person in my clan was also recently banned. I can't speak on their behalf because I'm unsure of the full story - but he got exactly the same response from Jagex. Unfortunately this happened to his maxed main account.


It would be nice to be able to speak to a human about this issue for the sake of all those affected. There's clearly an issue here :(

28-May-2020 20:17:48 - Last edited on 28-May-2020 20:20:06 by 4p

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