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Kags
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H Rassy said :
Hey, I have a question.

When making long journeys I discovered that the kharidian exile can take off up to 6 hours from a journey,19 hours to 13 hours in the one I saw. On short journeys you reach the max speed bonus much quicker and you don't need much bonus to get the shortest time but on (very) long missions you can use a lot of bonus. This makes me wondering,if you only want to do the really long missions would it not be worth it to run 4 kharidian exile as main crew at the cost of a seafaring or combat guy on the roster. So that you will do every travel,even 100% morale and combat with 1 exile and 1 merchant?
As long as you shave of more time percentage wise then success rate it should be worth it in the long run.
It also made me wonder if the reefrider (which can give 5k speed bonus) would be worth it for some journeys where you possibly wont reach the max speed bonus even with using an exile?

What is your opinion on this if may ask? (at kag or anyone else)

No. That 1 voyage that gives the 1-time use ring has terrible rewards anyway. No. 2 Kharidian Exiles is enough to max the speed of that 1 voyage anyway, but the rewards are terrible. No.
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17-Oct-2018 19:32:50 - Last edited on 17-Oct-2018 19:33:49 by Kags

Invention
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Invention

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kags, what is the chances of a mod either one u may know or wheover needs to see itr to potentially look over the chaos region suggestion.

unless they already have plans for a ports exspansion whic would be great. because id rather not post on reddit where it seems they look at more then forums and such but i think i might jsut do it and tweak some things on my suggesstion but seems this effort is going to waste. Co-Owner of Stormguard...the bird is the word.

18-Oct-2018 07:02:44

H Rassy
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H Rassy

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Hey again,thx for response!

I don't fully understand it or agree with it I think,could you maybe look at it again if you have time.
Even on "normal" voyages for trade goods or port resources I find that exile can take of sufficient time from the trip. Like full morale journey takes 13 something hours without exile and 10 something hours with exile while the succes percentage drops maybe like 10% (example,not exact numbers)
The thing is I don't have the tetsu rudder yet,but that only gives 300 more speed then the rudder I have. Can you guarantee that you can reach the shortest voyage time on almost every journey without using an exile or speed captain, and are the voyages where you wont reach max speed bonus a very rare exception ?
Like before,as long as success drops less then the time travel it should be worth it. Besides for situations where you want the highest success rate.

18-Oct-2018 12:01:21 - Last edited on 18-Oct-2018 12:02:45 by H Rassy

H Rassy
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Ok to give an example:


28.5k combat voyage for 560 azure,a special voyage with an adventurer.
All my combat crew is lvl 9. With 4x combat+1 merchant+1xcombat captain that costs 10k to buy (not the best captain but 2nd best) I get 86% success rate and 12:47 mission time.
With 3xcombat crew,1xmerchant,1x exile (lvl9) I get 76% success rate and 10:40 mission time.

I don't understand how this is not worth it,maybe I can get to max speed bonus with a maxed max lvl captain and the tetsu rudder but I honestly doubt that,that would only be an extra 300-500 speed bonus max.

I will compare again when I get tetsu rudder and a max lvl maxed captain.

Edit:another morale voyage,this time with the tetsu rudder and 700 speed bonus from the captain. 11.30 without exile and 10.30 with exile. Loosing 7% succesrate from somewhere in 70,s to somewhere in 60,s
This is borderline case I guess. 10% faster but I also lose 10% resources.
I don't know,it still feels worth it to me to run crew of 4 exiles at the cost of most likely 1 seafaring main crew.

19-Oct-2018 08:16:05 - Last edited on 20-Oct-2018 00:34:19 by H Rassy

Invention
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see i dont care about the spped, i want the highest percentage. because us till fail missions 99 percent and lower. at a certain percantage it seems u then los reources as a punishment and to me i cat afford that. alongside crew dying or ur ship spending an hour in dry docks. then theres the this mission was returned partially successful so i go percent over speed everytime.

for me azure missions theres no way r going to be able to do all missions before reset and new ones come and specials come. so once im on that resource i will send out the highest amount of azure i can first set of 4 boats then second set i have room to reroll voyages and such and most of the missions i send out for azre are always under 1100 time.

idk how this work bt for gunpowder missions the lowest time i think is 45min max speed etc but when i send it out hit the send voyage button and the next screen shows the time it wll come back it says something higher then wat it orginally said. say from 45min to 53min, not a big deal but confusing and makes no sense lol Co-Owner of Stormguard...the bird is the word.

20-Oct-2018 05:47:34

Kags
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Kags

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Invention said :
Kags, what are the chances of a mod either one u may know or whoever needs to see it to potentially look over the Chaos region suggestion.

Unless they already have plans for a ports expansion which would be great. because id rather not post on Reddit where it seems they look at more then forums and such but i think i might just do it and tweak some things on my suggestion but seems this effort is going to waste.

Jagex probably won't even consider a Ports expansion until after Runescape Mobile is released.

We might get a 4664 Port Score achievement (maybe even more Ports achievements) during November's Achievement Bonanza though. ;)

We are getting Ports ship time ETA being worked on during October's GameJam though. :D

~Portmaster Kags
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20-Oct-2018 06:59:30 - Last edited on 20-Oct-2018 07:05:17 by Kags

H Rassy
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No I do see arguments for getting the highest percentage I agree with that,and if you only do azure voyages the time gained is maybe not that significant if you don't maximize the time of ships being out anyway. Its more for a situation where you theoretically would like to max all port resources to 999k. In those situations you want to do all 15 voyages every day,including lots of lower ones. In that situation I think 4x exile is worth it if you try hard (which I am not,still lots of downtime on my ships but more from a theoretical point of vieuw)

@Kags:i see you responded already and consider the case closed,could you pls point me to the section in the guide where I can find the detailed explanation of why 3x exile is better then 4x?

20-Oct-2018 13:29:54 - Last edited on 20-Oct-2018 13:30:49 by H Rassy

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