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Repressor

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Keighlea said :
Repressor said :
I will also renew my appeal for anyone who has a lot of Nex experience to approximate drop table chances.
Based on personal experience, around 1/18... Based on the actual rate (forget which Jmod mentioned the rate) was something like 1/386 or 1/382 for anything, which puts it at 21-22 actual, before wealth or insignia

https://i.imgur.com/LXP1YuN.png

No minor drops on that though.

Tables:


Nex:

"25064" : 1/384, #Torva Boots
"25060" : 1/384, #Torva Gloves
"20135" : 1/384, #Torva Helm
"20139" : 1/384, #Torva Platebody
"20143" : 1/384, #Torva Platelegs

"25066" : 1/384, #Virtus Boots
"25062" : 1/384, #Virtus Gloves
"25664" : 1/384, #Virtus Book
"25654" : 1/384, #Virtus Wand
"20159" : 1/384, #Virtus Mask
"20163" : 1/384, #Virtus Robe Top
"20167" : 1/384, #Virtus Robe Legs

"25068" : 1/384, #Pernix Boots
"25058" : 1/384, #Pernix Gloves
"20147" : 1/384, #Pernix Cowl
"20155" : 1/384, #Pernix Chaps
"20151" : 1/384, #Pernix Body

kk:
"26579" : 1/192, #drygore rapier
"26587" : 1/192, #drygore longsword
"26595" : 1/192, #drygore mace
"26583" : 1/192, #Off-hand drygore rapier
"26591" : 1/192, #Off-hand drygore longsword
"26599" : 1/192, #Off-hand drygore mace

"219" : 30/16, #Grimy torstol
"217" : 30/16, #Grimy dwarf weed
"2485" : 30/16, #Grimy lantadyme
"3051" : 30/16, #Grimy snapdragon
"213" : 30/16, #Grimy Kwuarm

"5304" : 10/32, #Torstol seed
"5302" : 10/32, #Lantadyme seed
"5303" : 10/32, #Dwarf weed seed
"5300" : 10/16, #Snapdragon seed

"5316" : 5/32, #Magic seed
"5289" : 5/32, #Palm tree seed
"5315" : 10/32, #Yew seed

"385" : 50/4, #Shark
"2363" : 40/32, #Rune bar
"9245" : 200/32, #Onyx bolts (e)
"1747" : 100/32, #Black dragonhide
"3024" : 40/32, #Super restore (4)
"1440" : 50/64 #Earth talisman
Lampshades have an absolutely shocking attitude.

01-Sep-2015 20:54:22

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You forget that almost any non rare drop at Nex is at least 400k, 9/10 KK drops are shark or grimy snapdragon and the chance to get any rare at Nex is ~1/21 but it's ~1/32 at KK
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01-Sep-2015 21:20:31 - Last edited on 01-Sep-2015 21:22:26 by StoutStarmie

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StoutStarmie said :
You forget that almost any non rare drop at Nex is at least 400k,
This is the biggest problem with the table, but I have no real data to put drop chances to it.

StoutStarmie said :

9/10 KK drops are shark or grimy snapdragon
This is already factored in. You're statisically likely to get 12.5 Sharks per KK kill.

StoutStarmie said :

and the chance to get any rare at Nex is ~1/21 but it's ~1/32 at KK

This is also factored in - KKs drops are worth more though, so it's statistically a better option. Lampshades have an absolutely shocking attitude.

01-Sep-2015 21:34:44

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I'm not a math whiz, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, or if it makes no difference :P ...

Are limited numbers of kills factored in? Or do they not need to be factored in? For example if I win 3 darts... I can only do the three kills. Over a large sample size, KK would average out to be better (with the rates you've included).. But since the darts are limited to a smaller amount of kills, does that affect the results at all? Again, not a math whiz, so it might not even matter lol
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01-Sep-2015 21:41:30

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Keighlea said :
I'm not a math whiz, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, or if it makes no difference :P ...

Are limited numbers of kills factored in? Or do they not need to be factored in? For example if I win 3 darts... I can only do the three kills. Over a large sample size, KK would average out to be better (with the rates you've included).. But since the darts are limited to a smaller amount of kills, does that affect the results at all? Again, not a math whiz, so it might not even matter lol

The likelyhood of getting exactly 2.7M is small (In fact, i think it's theoretically 0). You're correct in thinking that for a small number of samples the average won't be as is shown in the graph.

This is the same logic but applied to dice rolls:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value#/media/File:Largenumbers.svg Lampshades have an absolutely shocking attitude.

01-Sep-2015 21:58:14

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Players can now more easily distinguish when the PoH incense burners are lit with increased visibility and different colours, depending on their icon of choice:

-Zamorak symbol and icon will produce dark-orange smoke.
http://puu.sh/jWOqg.png

This is somewhat disappointing

02-Sep-2015 00:40:38

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