RuneScape Forum Archive | Wilderness and Free Trade Vote

May

2017

Snugly Fluff

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I encourage a vote to end RWT and botting in Runescape....
but i guess that would never happen - probably upset the botters, hackers, and global economy....
edit: meaning, why don't poll other RS players outrage that RWT and botting is still so prevalent in RS. I know that nothing can be done about it, but I sometimes feel I am the only one in the entire game that is not botting.... Shift. Shift. Shift. I keep hitting the Shift key and I am still haven't moved.

22-Dec-2010 06:23:47 - Last edited on 22-Dec-2010 06:29:49 by Snugly Fluff

[#FEAE2FR5I]

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@ fangedbunny
if free trade is brought back could there still be a meter at the bottom of the trade screen to show the value of the offered items so theres no scamming
No, because with free trade.. there is no price... it is what people want it to be... and back in the day.. world 2 fally had great prices and bargains.. just gotta shop... revert to reality.. shopping and scams.. think before you act and you wont end up dumbfounded in result of anger.

22-Dec-2010 06:24:20

Edge Tech

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If you are going to add the wilderness anyways, and you allow people to vote more than once, AND you are doing this all to make a bunch of extra cash; Jagex has dropped to a new level.
I once respected the makers of Runescape, this may change everything.

22-Dec-2010 06:25:14

Fugitive113

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With all of the crazy changes made recently, I think this needs to be slowed down. I'd say it were a marketing scheme if it were entirely a marketing scheme, which it's not. Everything is about business in today's world, sadly, and that's just part of life. So marketing schemes are the way things go. Anyway, in my opinion, things have been pushed to the limit for many users on Runescape. I personally have been annoyed by my computer's tendencies when it comes to the graphics for a long time, and how much worse it's gotten since that last update. Scamming has gone considerably down, and botting has gone down due to rollbacks. I think there are many good things going on, but give me a chance to take one breath before you put a bag over my head... as gothic as that sounds.

22-Dec-2010 06:25:37

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@ snugly fluf
It isnt a vote.. if it was possible to stop it altogether they would have done so.. the thing is.. you can change your system.. but so will the bot organization, It is merely impossible to stop rwt and botting, just like in w-o-w..
you cant stop it, only surpress it to an extent of minor damage.
with that said, it would be pointless to vote it out, because if it was possible, it would be gone.

22-Dec-2010 06:26:17

Dec

2023

Futanari

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@ E M Er GeNcY
Before free trade was removed they had the GE released and the item value at the bottom of the screen. Basically you would still see the ge value of the item just no limit to what you could trade to other players.

22-Dec-2010 06:26:47

[#AYHH5K440]

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I personally dont want free trade back. i will admit i miss the old days, but they belong in the past. that fact is that free trade sets upa player controlled economy, which in turn sets up an elite class of players, and that isn't fair to anyone.
alot of players would say they disagree, but how many players really have any influence in the economy or price fluxuation? Not many, i can tell you that.
I think that where we are now is where we should be. Evolution is changed behavior and conditions. not a revert to what at the time were "better days." But the times we are in now are just as good. thats my novel of 2 cents. lol

22-Dec-2010 06:27:22

Nov

2004

Mr Symax

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Until jagex fixes the combat system their is no way to make the wildy a fair for all place it never was. The wildy was always a place for bullys and large groups to harass players the game is better off without it on every world.
Now trade limits Jagex doesnt stop bots its clear they dont the trade limits help but look around game and you see bots that are clearly in game for weeks and undetected.
To my view the detection system is a lie that is left unmonitored by real folks becomes chaos. Also a Jmod once stated one reason for doing the removal of trade when it was done was to stop the evolution of bots. This will simply mean more better harder to detect bots. Until jagex puts manpower behind bot removal there will be no fix.
Its really time to stop lamenting what is gone and work to improve the game. All these years and Jagex still has not thought enough of itself to live without old wildy or created an alternative suitable to players.
Jagex killed the old wildy and there is no need for that stupidity back in the game. Look at the empty pvp worlds is clear that overall wildy is unwanted.
The real reason to bring it back is appease a minority.
Also until the system if fixed to stop pure player development so all players have equal opportunity in wildly it needs to stay where it is.
Also I worked hard at my account to have players again drop trade between account and no they wont get caught no trade limit means no mechanism for monitoring it simply cant be done. You cant monitor what you allow. If jagex wanted to create a few wildy worlds that would be fine. The trade limit between unknown players not a good idea. Mr. Simax
May you be mortally wounded by the sword of good fortune.

22-Dec-2010 06:31:26

[#IEWYHFIKY]

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Scamming could be prevented other ways. Scamming was possible due to the poor trade system. ie, it allowed people to quickly change something at the last second and let it go unnoticed. They already implanted features to prevent that, and could of pursued such a path to cure it all together.
Also, free trade never created a class of "elites", the nature of the game is just that and poor and rich characters will always exist. Restricting trade has not helped that at all, I don't think.
Banning trade never solved anything. It didn't stop botting, it didn't even stop real world item trading. As mentioned by the staff themselves, if there is an incentive and motive, there is a way around it. Cheating is hard to eliminate. While RS should keep its best efforts to ban it, they shouldn't have gone this far and made such a radical move that changed the whole game itself.
"Jagex killed the old wildy and there is no need for that stupidity back in the game. Look at the empty pvp worlds is clear that overall wildy is unwanted.
The real reason to bring it back is appease a minority. "
I'm sorry what? The empty pvp worlds demonstrate how unwanted the NEW wildy system is. The old ones were always filled with activity.
Users wanting the old pvp system is not a minority. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Pvpers preferred the old system.
Personally, me and all my friends did, and we quit the game once it was removed.

22-Dec-2010 06:32:37 - Last edited on 22-Dec-2010 06:35:18 by [#IEWYHFIKY]

Dec

2023

Futanari

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@Dead Cell99
I agree somewhat, but there are ups and downs on both parts. Yes there will be more botters and rwters. But say a new item comes out? You don't want to get say 60m junk to sell this item if you get it. You want to sell it and just get your cash. Not spend time getting the junk in which time the item wont be worth a lot street value.

22-Dec-2010 06:32:40

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