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Vand

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Thank you very much for the transcript :) .
I was fortunate enough to have time to watch the Q&A while it was actually live-streaming, but it still is nice to have this transcript here in a written format to read over in the case I missed any small yet important details that were mentioned.
By the way, I can sincerely say this live-stream in particular was the best of the three so far, so thanks again for making it so awesome! Perhaps it was because there was an abundant amount of talent within the room that day with Chris L and Pi in addition to Mark, Jane, Paul M, and anyone else behind the live-stream that day, but either way, pure awesome!
Just your friendly neighborhood team player.

25-Sep-2012 22:30:41

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Hay i was wondering if it were posible to make claws up to rune F2P because it wold give people training smith more items to ceate and since dual weilding will be avaliable anyways then it should not be too much of a big deal making claws F2P. Cheers

25-Sep-2012 23:44:06

Barathak

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I have a question about the Godswords. Since you are getting rid of their special attacks, will they all be the same strength, or will some still have an advantage over another? For example, will the decision of which one to buy be coming strictly based on how they look, or will some be stronger than others?

26-Sep-2012 00:00:07

Shady Guy

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You started off very weak, but each Q & A has been better. This one was conducted very well. I am thinking it will do a bit to calm the fears of some on the fence about the EoC.
I didn't like your answers about multi/protection prayers/aggression of monsters. I still think you are inviting a slaughter of new accounts on a scale that isn't anticipated. I'd settle for one of the three being unchanged from the current game so that all levels can access the same places as currently.
I also disliked that you totally ignored the questions about ancient magicks. Many have felt that changing the lore for the convenience of EoC is something that should be corrected. I mean, would you go hunting for the diamonds under their EoC names? I wouldn't!
I'll submit my usual list of questions to be ignored later on. ;)
~ Bill ^_^
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26-Sep-2012 00:44:34

Bunnyhug

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......... ive been here through change but me and the majority of my friends agree that you guys have gone to far. rs2 was a great update everyone loved the outcome but you let us test it and we have not liked it nearly as much as you thought we would, dont try to hide that! please dont do this im not saying ill quit cause i wont, but im just saying i know you spent countless hours on this and who knows how much * but even game developers make mistakes... just stop,
-me and sooo many others, clearly you dont know how many people dislike.

2 things i think could be changed if you go through with eoc ( :'( )
1.please do not make it so you need a certain stance to kill certain monsters
2. make things a little easier for people on laptops ex not so many things to do at once
change stance, keep doin special thingers . etc...
and another thing..... you should cast an in game vote on EoC but to make it fair only people who played x hrs in beta can vote ? or vote in beta. cause not everyone reads these things the little amount of comments proves that.

26-Sep-2012 01:36:15

DANGER BIRD

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~-~mark: "It’s strange that you consider those weapons to be unique but actually, because of the abilities that were associated with them (the special attacks) everyone was using them."
The weapons do have unique uses. They are used in different situations so there is that reason to collect as many of them as I can, variety between players also came in what they could best afford or earn, and you want to replace this with a cosmetic choice making all players the same...
Its really sad that you want to remove all weapon specs to give them to low levels then also suggested in the last Q&A that unique weapon effects could be added as new higher level content as if that makes the current situation better. imo there is still space for current high level gear to keep specs or effects as I suggest in feedback thread ( 299-300-617-64003275 )
~-~"one of the early challenges on the combat system, which was to make a system that would encourage people to level up all their stats and not have a game that encouraged people to keep their stats low. Defence will play a much bigger contribution to your effectiveness in combat."
Defence doesn't seem much more useful than in live if you don't use a shield, which I've only had to use to switch to for excaliber healing so far.
A better way to limit pures from limiting themselves would be to have defence not effect combat level unless its highest skill, that would mean combat level needing reworked again tho. I will put a suggestion together for this later.

26-Sep-2012 01:41:34

DANGER BIRD

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~-~(on ability spam in PvM) "I appreciate that a lot of people just look at the system and think that the best way to interact with it is to mash buttons. That’s simply not the case. There are several abilities which actually reward you for sitting back and waiting for them to finish."
Yeh there is watching the animations and a couple abilites linked, but apart from that you use them as soon as possible to keep up damage and adreneline, and all of that gets boring and mindless pretty quick.
A big part of the problem is adreneline system encourages ability spam by rewarding it with adreneline gain, whether its a bad choice or not tacticly this annoys and frustrates players. I've came across a few threads of feedback complaining about this, with suggestions of having auto-attacks give a decent amount of adreneline to give us and the new combat system some breathing room.
I also have my own suggestions to this issue that also fixes issues with momentum in feedback thread linked earlier.
~-~(On action bar restricting chat) "It will take a bit of getting used to, the idea of hitting enter before you chat but I think after a while people will get used to it."
Please add an option to turn off keybinds while keeping action bar open so we are free to chat, as some of us prefer to just click abilities anyway as its less effort than using 2 hands for combat.
My main feedback thread again ( 299-300-617-64003275 )
And also thank you very much for the transcript as I couldn't watch livestream. :)

26-Sep-2012 01:42:33 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2012 01:44:32 by DANGER BIRD

Ice Mage
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Sweet, I appreciate the time you spent into transcripting this. And even though I don't really approve of the EoC (Mainly because I couldn't get it to work so well... I was only able to kill 3 mith dragons in a trip in maxed out gear compared to the tons I can with the current system) I might check it out, seeing how you've made so many changes.
Also, I think I remember your idea, Deathrev. Was it the one where they release EoC as RS3 and introduce RS2 as a separate game, like classic, and you have to pay a one-time fee to play? Anyways, I support of this because I know that I would love to just play the old game sometimes, seeing how familiar I am with it even if I end up enjoying the EoC.
Y'know, seeing how this post is actually pretty close to the original posts, perhaps my last comment might be noticed. Perhaps bring back tutorial island as one of the EoC tutorials..? I mean, it is promised future content ;)
Because the thing you lack when you're looking back is the pressure, the feel that you have to act
Yeah everything is clearer when you're looking at the past
-Streetlight Manifesto

26-Sep-2012 02:41:35

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