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RiDaku
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Ezklov said :
Yikes.


I think the real "yikes" is your speedy reply to two posts of something filthier than the bathwater that guy gets out of every other week. I'm gonna make an educated guess that you're sitting in a certain discord laughing about it, with no actual intention of carrying out a discussion, and so I'm gonna offer you this and leave it at that-

When I stop getting approached by and complimented on my guide and how well it helped new-name rpers figure out what they're doing, I'll start considering a change.

Well, also, I'll acknowledge one comment by the other poster; The guide's length in its original state. When the thread was originally made (Which, the person commenting about it has *no* idea on because they weren't around for it), it was much more simple because roleplay on 42 was much more simple. I'll recount a little snippet told to me by the same person that made that guide, how fights would open with someone throwing a fire surge, the other throwing a water surge, then grappling for one-line melee emotes. That's not even close to what goes on now, and the guide's been getting longer each time to accomodate for the increase in content for each roleplayer's actions.

Cheers!
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04-Jan-2018 23:00:38

Ezklov

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RiDaku said :
Ezklov said :
Yikes.
Cheers!


Wait, why are you reacting to that negatively? Hello? I don't even think I tried to insult you? You asked for constructional criticism, did you not? What a goofy response.

The fact that you even acknowledge that the guide isn't designed for the current state of RP and proceed to tell me that things aren't similar to before only throws the entire purpose of this thread into the water. Your response of shoving this under a rug and finishing with "cheers!" is shocking. Whatever though, wallow in it.

The uncaring and blissful nature you have is part of what makes this community unlikely to survive the next few years.
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04-Jan-2018 23:16:23 - Last edited on 04-Jan-2018 23:24:07 by Ezklov

RiDaku
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Ezklov said :
The fact that you even acknowledge that the guide isn't designed for the current state of RP


? That's not at all what I said. I said the state of the original guide, the one Rai had, wouldn't even come close to holding up to what the community's doing now. Which is what said other poster was referring to, "It should've just stayed the same".

You're correct in that I'm completely brushing aside your criticism, though, because it's completely contradictory to what I've gotten for answers when asking newcomers what they'd like to see in the guide. Yeah, I mentioned that you didn't provide any criticism, but at the same time I was telling you I don't care about the things you have to say regarding it. Oddly enough, I did give it a good 3 months waiting for help from the established community on what should be on this guide - Got literally nothing. There was a big stink when I got it, from pretty much the same people that complain about it now, and no others. Once it was established that I for-real had the thread.. well, suddenly all the whining and complaining about what the previous guide held just kinda flickered out. It's just a rare comment now of "this is bad baleet thread thx", from people who've got no need to use the thread anymore.

I'm going to value the new faces' thoughts more than I'm going to value the veteran's. This guide is for the new players, and it'll tailor to what the new players want to see, not what the veterans think the new players want to see.
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04-Jan-2018 23:42:10

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RiDaku said :
You're correct in that I'm completely brushing aside your criticism, though, because it's completely contradictory to what I've gotten for answers when asking newcomers what they'd like to see in the guide. Yeah, I mentioned that you didn't provide any criticism, but at the same time I was telling you I don't care about the things you have to say regarding it.


Why though.

RiDaku said :
I'm gonna make an educated guess that you're sitting in a certain discord laughing about it, with no actual intention of carrying out a discussion,


He hasn't really said anything derogatory towards you or about here you that would call for laughs in a discord voice chat, though. He's critiquing the guide, which he probably would have done regardless of who the thread-holder was.

Even if you don't like/agree with him or what he's doing, there's no harm in actually reading what he's offering and taking it into consideration, is there?
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05-Jan-2018 00:11:10

Ezklov

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RiDaku said :
I'm going to value the new faces' thoughts more than I'm going to value the veteran's. This guide is for the new players, and it'll tailor to what the new players want to see, not what the veterans think the new players want to see.


Who exactly are these new players you speak of? I see older, experienced ones that have at a bare minimum been here for over a year, and even when I've found brand new people, they've admitted to never even attempting at accessing the in-game RP forums nor did they intend to read this guide. The new player argument you make is entirely irrelevant.

When you blatantly say you're going to ignore constructional criticism even after asking for it in the first place in your initial reply, I think you shouldn't be the ambassador here hosting a thread for such an important thing. Your thread is THE sticky with THE guide to RP as a whole, not just tailored to this game. A brand new person never previously experiencing RP will visit this thread and see it as concrete what they must do to be an RPer, assuming they actually read the damn thing through its inane, needless complexity. Most of what is in this thread shouldn't even be there.

Blacklisting should in NO way be mentioned at all. You shouldn't even make it relevant that it has ever existed, as it shows someone that they could actually do that to someone, or more likely, show them that this community has some level of toxicity which is truth to begin with. That toxicity shouldn't be shown at all costs to prevent turning people away. You also shouldn't be mentioning toxicity at all in the guide.

Why is that part of a guide? What relevance does that have to show someone how to RP? Parts of the guide are massively out-dated, by a full year. That's beyond ridiculous. If you want to argue this thread's right to exist/be unchanged, you should be maintaining its content and keeping it up to date.
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05-Jan-2018 13:19:56 - Last edited on 05-Jan-2018 13:32:26 by Ezklov

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05-Jan-2018 13:33:47

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The purpose of my comments, suggestions, criticisms and direct attacks at your lack of care for what is said is to encourage you to actually maintain what is without maintenance and revise current written standards, definitions and rules. There are far better guides out there all over the place designed by poll submissions, thousands of pieces of feedback and years of constant critique.

But I suppose some screenshots of people I've never seen in my twelve years of RP counter my entire argument and give you reason to ignore every word. Again, you nail the issue on my end down to a group (which happens to involve a decent portion of the community) when only two people from said group have commented -- Jake (who provides nothing to help) and Gale. Blatant bliss ignorance and toxicity at its finest. I suppose that's why you have it unfortunately incorporated in your own thread even though that's presumptuous and biased.

This isn't about what they want or what I or other people want. It is about the poor fluidity, maintenance, efficiency and over detail in areas that could be simplified and made easier.

Very concave with no room open for ideas. I don't like that for a sticky owner.
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