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Dansplainer
Sep Member 2007

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Hi, it's me, Dan. I used to roleplay in this community, though I decided a few months back to leave due to an overwhelming amount of personal and roleplaying issues.

#1
Anywho, I noticed you have this project going, and while I will not discourage you from going ahead with it, I believe that you could gain a lot by communicating with Shawdow, the leader of the Caliphate of Kharidia, whose lands you seem to desire for your own PoK here. I have spoken to him already, and he said you hadn't gone to him yet, but knowing him, I'm sure he'd be willing to do a whole plot with you if you asked. He's great.

So, perhaps you guys could set up some claimant war or something like that over control of the Caliphate's lands. I don't know. I'd be willing to help set something like that up.

#2
I feel like your new project would benefit from accurate cultural portrayal and titles fit for the region. For example, the Ottoman Empire was only called an 'empire' because that is the common, English translation of their empire was called.

So, like the Ottomans, you could call your PoK a 'sultanate,' like the Ottoman Sultanate, which is led by a Sultan (which is generally a male title, the female variation of the title is Sultana, but female rulers have been known to take male variations of the title, such as Jadwiga, who was crowned the 'King of Poland' as was the customary title of the monarch in Poland at the time, despite being female).

A sultanate would be far more fitting for the region you're intending on claiming than an 'empire.' You don't have to do it (I'm not forcing you or anything), but it would certainly give your roleplay a more authentic cultural touch.

#3
When referring to an Emperor or Empress, it isn't 'Her or His Empress.' It is 'His or Her Imperial Majesty,' by the way.

I apologize if this all seems a bit pretentious or rude, I really only want to help you out. Please, have fun and enjoy your roleplay, Bread Person. :)
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23-Oct-2017 21:39:18 - Last edited on 23-Oct-2017 22:35:24 by Dansplainer

Bad BunnyX3
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Haha, just noticed that, and no you don't seem rude at all nor pretentious, just someone trying to help! Forgive me, and I should really be asking Shadow for forgiveness for stepping on toes virtually, but I didn't see any such rp group until it was bumped just today. And if I recall the last forum post was over a month ago. And a sort of claim-war was something I was going for, though I had no clue this other group existed. I'm new to this whole starting threads thing and did it to help revive rp, ^>^ Not a desperate power-hungry person, and I am incredibly thankful for your tips.

23-Oct-2017 21:47:56

Dansplainer
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Great!

Shaw doesn't seem upset or anything, so I'm sure he'd be welcome to fixing up a nice little plot with you if you're interested. I encourage you to do some research in the culture of Middle Eastern/Turkish civilizations, and, of course, I'm always willing to help you set up an accurate portrayal of any one of them, if you would need it.
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23-Oct-2017 21:53:11

Vhosythe42

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Except Menaphos is clearly based on ancient Egypt, not on the empires of Persia and the later Ottomans. :thinking: Your weird attempts at pedantry, though sincere, fail to persuade through their sheer inaccuracy.

Proof:

1. The living dwell on the west bank of the holy river whereas the dead are buried in the east. The Nile was viewed as the barrier between this life and the next, and crossing to the other side of the river was an arduous, highly regulated process of ceremonies and taboos. The act of quarantining plague victims on the eastern side of the river, although a JaGeX fabrication, is not so implausible within this context.

2. Khopeshes ( khopeshi ?) are Egyptian weapons which evolved from battle axes.

3. The royal library bears striking resemblances to that which was located in Alexandria.

4. The NPC leader is a pharaoh.

5. Scarab, jackal, ibis, and cat imagery. All were sacred to the Egyptians. Many of their gods beared as their countenances the heads of these beasts.

Don't worry about it, OP.

Though speaking of that, what's your deal with race and ethnicity, OP? Do you want the majority of your characters to be dark-skinned natives?

23-Oct-2017 22:07:45 - Last edited on 23-Oct-2017 22:25:18 by Vhosythe42

Dansplainer
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Duh. I wasn't being entirely specific about it, as portraying an Ottoman culture was an example, ( IE, "For example," ) and I encouraged Bread Person to research Middle Eastern (as well as Turkish) culture and civilization; Egypt is considered part of the Middle East, as well as North Africa (which is another great cultural group worthy of research on this topic).

It isn't really clear to me where all of this roleplay is, and will be, based, to be honest, but I would suggest either working off of the ancient Egyptian kingdom (with the pharaoh and all that neat stuff) or the Ottoman Sultanate, as either system/culture works for the entirety of the desert. (Though, technically, there's no IG or IC precedence for a Menaphite Pharaoh ruling Al Kharid. There is, however, IC precedence for a Sultan ruling the entire desert.)

Bread Person, I'll be around in-game if and when you want to discuss all of this.
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23-Oct-2017 22:29:23 - Last edited on 23-Oct-2017 22:30:00 by Dansplainer

Vhosythe42

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I would only request that you do research before speaking with such confidence as you have exhibited already; both on real-world topics and on the RP community which you yourself purport to have departed from a long time ago.

For example:

Dansplainer said :
Egypt is considered part of the Middle East, as well as North Africa


No they aren't. (And furthermore, trying to argue over "Middle Eastern" cultures as a homogenized, blended mess of countries is terribly ignorant in itself. Life in Yemen differs strikingly from that in Armenia despite geographical nearness, so calling Egypt "Middle Eastern" would have been useless anyway.)



Like you said, OP is not obliged to take your advice. But if she chooses to do so, I think you owe her a degree of accuracy in your statements, or else your efforts at improving "cultural portrayals" are nothing more than self-sabotage, good intentions without substance.

Granted, yours will be a worthy debate when the topic of al-Kharid arises. That region is more of a mishmash than Menaphos.

23-Oct-2017 22:38:59 - Last edited on 23-Oct-2017 22:47:36 by Vhosythe42

Dansplainer
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You are clearly arguing geography, and I am arguing culture. Apples to oranges, man.

Egypt is considered part of the Middle Eastern (or, a better term might be Arabic ) culture , so it is included in the Middle Eastern cultures and civilizations that I was referring to. That should be pretty simple to understand.
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23-Oct-2017 22:49:47

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