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Lord Pyro I
Nov Member 2018

Lord Pyro I

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Sorry all, I wasn't going to do this but it seems there is an ongoing effort to keep this failed attempt alive so I thought I would bring a little transparency to this event in the hope that those who were not present but are actively supporting this claim will realize that despite their IC desire to see my character fall the only honorable thing to do in this situation is to admit that this was a failed attempt.

Obviously this refers to the coup attempt launched against my character. Here are a few of the issues that make this difficult for any reasonable person to conclude it succeeded:

- The RP was never completed and offers to resume it were rejected
- The instigator of the RP (who cannot be named) arranged the timing of the RP not just aware, but I can only assume, deliberately intending that it be cut short by my need to go to bed so I could get up for work in the morning. In fact he had to pretty much beg me into agreeing even to a short meeting.
- The attackers did not have the upper hand at the time at which I called for the RP to be paused. In fact two of the attackers had wasted their spells (one having actually empowered Lord Pyro while doing so) and the third was focusing all their energy in preventing Pyro's escape.
- Two of the attackers cast spells against Pyro without charging them or stating that they had spells charged prior to their arrival at the meeting (though I take this with a pinch of salt as such magic could believably be hidden from Pyro's notice)
- One of the attackers cast a second spell at Pyro immediately after seeing the first fail, again without charging it.
- One of the attackers created a ward around the entire room and generated an area teleblock around it with the same spell. To me this feels like a cheap way to avoid having to hit an enemy (or enemies) with a teleblock spell. While area teleblock spells do exist I consider them to take a considerable amount of time to set in place. "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"
#WarIsComing

06-Sep-2020 12:39:50

Lord Pyro I
Nov Member 2018

Lord Pyro I

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Counter arguments

In the spirit of genuine transparency I am forced to admit that during this fight I was accused of making Pyro overpowered. In general it is something that you could certainly have a debate about, though I happen to believe I would ultimately demonstrate that the character is not particularly OP.

For the purposes of this thread however I will focus solely on the events of the fight.

During which Pyro employed two forms of defense to protect himself.

1. A preinstalled magical ward created to protect three specific spots within the throne room each on it's own specific command. This defense was created with it's own separate store of magical energy so did not require a spell (once it had been constructed that is). I consider this to be a simple matter of planning ahead and not a sign of an OP character.

2. The use of his augmented pyromancy skills to absorb the fire attacks launched against him. It was suggested at the time that this would overload Pyro's famous sword causing it to explode and that the fact that it did not made it OP.

What was not realized at the time (partly because I was struggling to get a word in) was that one of the most fundamental aspects of that artifact is its symbiotic relationship with its user (after a certain amount of time). Such that energy absorbed by the sword is transferred to the user and simply put the attacking Mahjarrat could not output enough energy to overload both the sword and another Mahjarrat. In storage capacity terms:

Mahjarrat + Sword > Mahjarrat "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"
#WarIsComing

06-Sep-2020 12:39:58 - Last edited on 06-Sep-2020 13:01:22 by Lord Pyro I

Lord Pyro I
Nov Member 2018

Lord Pyro I

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I hope that baring these facts in mind (to which members of my pok can testify if needbe) certain members of our community will lay this matter to rest. Accepting that while they may still have many reasons to dislike me personally they cannot claim such a clearly flawed attempt on Pyro's life succeeded.

Oh you may now post. Try to keep it civil please. "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"
#WarIsComing

06-Sep-2020 12:40:05 - Last edited on 06-Sep-2020 13:05:41 by Lord Pyro I

CrocoNuts
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Ah look, 'this' thread again.


I honestly hope that the people who are roleplaying the death of Lord Pyro as legitimate continue to do so. These roleplayers should in my oppinion not take heed of such a demanding figure roleplaying a mahjarrat of this caliber in the remaining roleplay scene of W42. Carry on 42, carry on. Quickly learn how to Roleplay on RuneScape!

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06-Sep-2020 14:45:28

John McAfee
Sep Member 2023

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CrocoNuts said :
Ah look, 'this' thread again.


I honestly hope that the people who are roleplaying the death of Lord Pyro as legitimate continue to do so. These roleplayers should in my oppinion not take heed of such a demanding figure roleplaying a mahjarrat of this caliber in the remaining roleplay scene of W42. Carry on 42, carry on.

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06-Sep-2020 15:15:18

RiDaku
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So, I just have to ask... Why? Why care, why bother? Why create threads and argue with people and constantly get involved in drama about this? It's been evident for an actual decade that these people don't actually want to RP with you. That the only time they decide to is when they want to kill you. It's been a long-running tradition on w42 that if you don't like someone, kill their character, and if they don't die (either through failure on the attackers' part or refusal to accept on the defender's part) then just call them dead anyways until they're so desperate to be acknowledged that they'll let you try and kill them again.

It's just so.. sad to see. The desperation to RP with people who don't want anything to do with you, operating on the blind assumption that the only thing preventing them from rping with you is that they're misguided on the course of events. Trust me when I say, and I mean this wholeheartedly, nobody cares. Nobody actually cares what went on. Who did what or how it ended or didn't end. All that's cared about is "Finally, we have (another) excuse on why we won't RP with him." It's been the same story for the past 10 years. You get piled, you use your underwhelmingly-powered mahjarrat adhering to human restrictions, you log off or start debating something while everybody else continues to RP without you, you get declared dead, you contest it, a year passes, rinse repeat. Just stop, dude. Just do your own RP's. There is literally nothing to gain except frustration on your side's end from insisting on this. The Sicarius |
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06-Sep-2020 16:35:53

Valiesin
Dec Member 2021

Valiesin

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RiDaku said :
So, I just have to ask... Why? Why care, why bother? Why create threads and argue with people and constantly get involved in drama about this? It's been evident for an actual decade that these people don't actually want to RP with you. That the only time they decide to is when they want to kill you. It's been a long-running tradition on w42 that if you don't like someone, kill their character, and if they don't die (either through failure on the attackers' part or refusal to accept on the defender's part) then just call them dead anyways until they're so desperate to be acknowledged that they'll let you try and kill them again.

It's just so.. sad to see. The desperation to RP with people who don't want anything to do with you, operating on the blind assumption that the only thing preventing them from rping with you is that they're misguided on the course of events. Trust me when I say, and I mean this wholeheartedly, nobody cares. Nobody actually cares what went on. Who did what or how it ended or didn't end. All that's cared about is "Finally, we have (another) excuse on why we won't RP with him." It's been the same story for the past 10 years. You get piled, you use your underwhelmingly-powered mahjarrat adhering to human restrictions, you log off or start debating something while everybody else continues to RP without you, you get declared dead, you contest it, a year passes, rinse repeat. Just stop, dude. Just do your own RP's. There is literally nothing to gain except frustration on your side's end from insisting on this.

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06-Sep-2020 20:42:40

Lord Pyro I
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To be honest I more find this reaction sad than anything. The clear inability to deal with other people based on some IC grudge and complete inability to adhere to some basic rules that were set in place for the enjoyment of everybody (and the ignoring of which destoryed this community more than any other factor).

Please don't imagine that any of this causes drama for me. I typed this up in a few minutes because I was bored at the time.

Oh and I never actually believed any of these people were misinformed or misguided, that was what you call a polite fiction put in place to allow them to step back on their previous declarations without losing face too much. The fact that you've all chosen to double down on those opinions in this way isn't much of a disappointment to me. More sort of a useful recruitment tool. "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"
#WarIsComing

06-Sep-2020 21:01:11

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