RuneScape Forum Archive | Clue Upgrading Ability

Hercules36

Posts: 18 Bronze Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Exactly. That's the whole point of this suggestion.

Thank you.

05-Jun-2023 13:31:03

Apr

2022

Tomato 56789

Posts: 15,317 Opal Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

I support given the ratio is punishing enough to not cause the reward values of higher tier clues to crash. I hate elites and would love to be able to upgrade them even if it's a 20:1 ratio lol.

Casual legacy trash of 19 years in RS, author of 6 books irl

12-Jun-2023 23:26:18

Hercules36

Posts: 18 Bronze Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

That's my point exactly Tomato.

The exchange ratio isn't really going to change the market value of dyes. It's all still based on the random luck of even getting a dye. Just because you've upgraded all your lower clues to elites or masters doesn't guarantee that you're going to get a dye.

Also, even if you do get the easy clue farmers solely farming clues all day, by the time you figure in the exchange rate to upgrade them, they might end up with 1 elite maybe 1 master for a day of farming.

The whole suggestion was for those players that already have a bunch of clues they never plan to do becuse the loot available for the easy, medium (and most of the time) even hards, isn't worth the time to do them so they just sit in the bank gathering dust.

If this is implemented in the game it'd give players a chance to upgrade those clues for a chance at better loot which would make it worth the time to do those clues.

13-Jun-2023 17:19:32

Apr

2022

Tomato 56789

Posts: 15,317 Opal Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Hercules36 said :
That's my point exactly Tomato.

The exchange ratio isn't really going to change the market value of dyes. It's all still based on the random luck of even getting a dye. Just because you've upgraded all your lower clues to elites or masters doesn't guarantee that you're going to get a dye.

Also, even if you do get the easy clue farmers solely farming clues all day, by the time you figure in the exchange rate to upgrade them, they might end up with 1 elite maybe 1 master for a day of farming.

The whole suggestion was for those players that already have a bunch of clues they never plan to do becuse the loot available for the easy, medium (and most of the time) even hards, isn't worth the time to do them so they just sit in the bank gathering dust.

If this is implemented in the game it'd give players a chance to upgrade those clues for a chance at better loot which would make it worth the time to do those clues.

I find I farm hards faster than anything else, but I get tons of elites from barrows that I dread having to do when my pouch fills. Not a fan of mediums either so wouldn't mind compressing those (heck I might downgrade mine - easies are still around 1m a pop).

Casual legacy trash of 19 years in RS, author of 6 books irl

14-Jun-2023 00:43:08

Jan

2015

Tenebri

Posts: 39,167 Sapphire Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Tomato 56789 said :
Hercules36 said :
That's my point exactly Tomato.

The exchange ratio isn't really going to change the market value of dyes. It's all still based on the random luck of even getting a dye. Just because you've upgraded all your lower clues to elites or masters doesn't guarantee that you're going to get a dye.

Also, even if you do get the easy clue farmers solely farming clues all day, by the time you figure in the exchange rate to upgrade them, they might end up with 1 elite maybe 1 master for a day of farming.

The whole suggestion was for those players that already have a bunch of clues they never plan to do becuse the loot available for the easy, medium (and most of the time) even hards, isn't worth the time to do them so they just sit in the bank gathering dust.

If this is implemented in the game it'd give players a chance to upgrade those clues for a chance at better loot which would make it worth the time to do those clues.

I find I farm hards faster than anything else, but I get tons of elites from barrows that I dread having to do when my pouch fills. Not a fan of mediums either so wouldn't mind compressing those (heck I might downgrade mine - easies are still around 1m a pop).

when i did easy log, getting 50 from ham members took less than a hour. just an fyi

i also dislike mediums / elites. i only do hards / masters now.
200m all RS3 on 7/3/19

1.2Billion overall Slayer xp / Ultimate slayer title

OSRS 2277/2277 Untrim slayer cape

Hail Satan, He loves for who you are.

14-Jun-2023 00:48:32 - Last edited on 14-Jun-2023 00:48:40 by Tenebri

Apr

2022

Tomato 56789

Posts: 15,317 Opal Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

I don't have such luck with HAMs, lol. I also don't really care about log though - hards and masters are my main source of gold beside barrows and occasional slayer.

Casual legacy trash of 19 years in RS, author of 6 books irl

14-Jun-2023 00:50:22

Jan

2015

Tenebri

Posts: 39,167 Sapphire Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Hercules36 said :

The exchange ratio isn't really going to change the market value of dyes. It's all still based on the random luck of even getting a dye. s.

im sorry to say but it technically would

if im able to convert elites to masters. and everyone else can to even at 20:1 ratio, it will become easier to get masters. therefore there will be dyes entering the game

it maybe random, that is what rng is, but it is statistics at the end of the day. and there will be more entering game when there are more masters being completed per day than before

**note im not saying im against the idea, just clarifying**
200m all RS3 on 7/3/19

1.2Billion overall Slayer xp / Ultimate slayer title

OSRS 2277/2277 Untrim slayer cape

Hail Satan, He loves for who you are.

14-Jun-2023 00:50:54 - Last edited on 14-Jun-2023 00:51:15 by Tenebri

Apr

2022

Tomato 56789

Posts: 15,317 Opal Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Tenebri said :
Hercules36 said :

The exchange ratio isn't really going to change the market value of dyes. It's all still based on the random luck of even getting a dye. s.

im sorry to say but it technically would

if im able to convert elites to masters. and everyone else can to even at 20:1 ratio, it will become easier to get masters. therefore there will be dyes entering the game

it maybe random, that is what rng is, but it is statistics at the end of the day. and there will be more entering game when there are more masters being completed per day than before

**note im not saying im against the idea, just clarifying**

Elites give dyes too, though. So with upgrading it would be much fewer elites being done to compensate. We may see more Orlando Smith hats but I'm doubtful we'd see a large enough surplus of dyes to impact anything.

Can't speak for the OP but I wouldn't be against the upgrades being blocked between hards and elites. Maybe easy-medium-and hard upgrade but no upgrading hards to elites.

Casual legacy trash of 19 years in RS, author of 6 books irl

14-Jun-2023 00:54:15

Jan

2015

Tenebri

Posts: 39,167 Sapphire Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Tomato 56789 said :
Tenebri said :
Hercules36 said :

The exchange ratio isn't really going to change the market value of dyes. It's all still based on the random luck of even getting a dye. s.

im sorry to say but it technically would

if im able to convert elites to masters. and everyone else can to even at 20:1 ratio, it will become easier to get masters. therefore there will be dyes entering the game

it maybe random, that is what rng is, but it is statistics at the end of the day. and there will be more entering game when there are more masters being completed per day than before

**note im not saying im against the idea, just clarifying**

Elites give dyes too, though. So with upgrading it would be much fewer elites being done to compensate. We may see more Orlando Smith hats but I'm doubtful we'd see a large enough surplus of dyes to impact anything.

elites do yes but at a lower rate sure. (i think only blood is lower in elite but only by 1, 1:52391 in master and 1:52390 in elite)

but as for you, and myself. my elites get turned into hards, and hards only give barrows / shadow dye, if i can now turn them to masters. then well thats where the dyes come into play. and i know we are not the only ones that do this.
200m all RS3 on 7/3/19

1.2Billion overall Slayer xp / Ultimate slayer title

OSRS 2277/2277 Untrim slayer cape

Hail Satan, He loves for who you are.

14-Jun-2023 01:09:26

Apr

2022

Tomato 56789

Posts: 15,317 Opal Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

That's why I think the ratio could be adjusted to not leave too hard of an impact, and a wall between hard and elite would mean that for masters the person would need to at least farm elites. A lot of clue fans enjoy elites more than masters due to the simplicity and not needing to constantly bank for the skill activities. Even with the option there the amount of people who would be upgrading elites to masters is negligible and would mostly consist of more casual hunters.

Casual legacy trash of 19 years in RS, author of 6 books irl

14-Jun-2023 01:16:15

Forums

Clue Upgrading Ability