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Gerchin
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I know there's no talisman for the Astral altar there was that, and that it was probably considered to be a lot faster to run Astrals that way than ever the abyss can make it.
Now it would be at least as fast if certain things were had.

Reasons to do it -

1.) No extra runes need to be carried for teleports

2.) Abyss experience enhancements/buffs

3.) A way to get to change to Lunar spell book that is more convenient

4.) The atmosphere of Abyss running while doing Astrals


There's room for it, and a fitting place for it between Nature and Cosmic altar passages.

30-Mar-2023 16:04:50 - Last edited on 30-Mar-2023 16:07:13 by Gerchin

Daddy Roshi
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Honestly I don't think it makes sense personally since the astral altar for one like u said doesn't need a talisman and two its in the over world it's not its own separate dimension like all the other altars are as far as extra space idk if ur asking for osrs or rs3 but either way u can just carry the extra runes in a rune pouch for one invy space so missing out on one astral rune ain't a big deal

The extra XP for doing abyss running would be nice tbh that's fair

Changing to lunar spells u can do with the magic skill cape at a bank and I believe all spell books come with spell book swap now I might be wrong about that though but since I didn't mention those either u don't have the levels for them or this is an osrs issue if it's an osrs issue try posting in the osrs forums farther down the forums page ull have better results there

And the atmosphere of abyss is more a personal reason not an actual reason to add it
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30-Mar-2023 18:38:22

Gerchin
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That's the thing though, the astral altar is in the normal dimension, when it implies by name that it is a different dimension, we have the astral plain which in itself is a different dimension, the whole Lunar place should be itself considered a different dimension, which perhaps is why it doesn't have a talisman, because it would be redundant if it did.

And it would be nice if you could go from running any other rune type, to running Astrals on a whim. And also like I said, change your spellbook, if you could finish off Abyss running to switch to the Lunar spell book to do a different activity, you would be more likely to do either one or the other. Since the Lunar spellbook, is the skilling spellbook, it would be nice to not have to go out of your way to get there.
Because the Lunar spellbook is a book you do for many activities, you are likely to want to change it to do something else, and it would be nice to be able to do that more easily.

And while atmosphere may be a preference thing, it's one we can't do. So it is the same as if we had to run runes from any other bank to any other altar; not a choice you'd choose given the option.

And considering Astrals is not the best form of Exp that makes the need for the Abyss buffs all the more necessary, because if you consider, probably running lower grade runes in the abyss, with the buffs, bring it up to par with running Astrals without the buffs, that's an even greater reason to do it.

30-Mar-2023 19:24:54 - Last edited on 30-Mar-2023 19:25:35 by Gerchin

Gerchin
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If you're running any other type of rune it doesn't matter which spell book you're on. If you're running Astrals you have to be on the Lunar spell book, and I think that makes a lot of people not choose to run Astrals. So talking about every other Altar having it's own dimension and the Astrals not, is not true.

If you have to change your spell book at the beginning and end of an activity, that is just flat out annoying if you have to go out of your way to do it.

30-Mar-2023 19:49:31 - Last edited on 30-Mar-2023 19:51:26 by Gerchin

Daddy Roshi
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would u mind clarifying which game ur referring to for me? osrs or rs3? just so im on the same page as u cause like i said if ur referring to rs3 u can change ur book at a bank with the magic cape perk and i just wanna make sure were talking about the same game :P
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30-Mar-2023 22:13:22

Gerchin
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Yes, rs3.
If you need to get 99 just to use what you have, properly, then that is not really fair.
Magic is a loaded skill, and you shouldn't have to get 99 just to be able to enjoy what you have gotten. If it were like any other skill, there would be 1 spell book, but since they had so much they wanted to make it do, they had to make 3 spell books. I mean, I'm glad we don't have to train 3 separate magic skills; like how we don't have to train 3 separate defence's, but do we need to treat them like they are different skills until you get to 99? For defence, we wear different armor to accentuate defence in whatever cb type we're using. For magic we have different runes. You essentially are saying we need to make RC into one skill for all the other runes and a different skill for Astrals. Because magic isn't the skill in question, RC is, and magic shouldn't hinder that, only make it more tolerable. And right now it's not doing that for Astrals, unless as you say, you've achieved 99 in magic. If you had to get 99 for every skill to make, said skill, tolerable to enjoy; no one would play. It's supposed to be, you get to 99 and then you move on to the next skill, you're saying you have to get to 99 so you can even use the skill properly.

30-Mar-2023 23:00:30 - Last edited on 30-Mar-2023 23:02:11 by Gerchin

Daddy Roshi
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ok cool just wanted to make sure which one u were talking about ty :)

how am i saying astral needs to be its own skill exactly? and how am i saying u need 99 in the skill to use it properly? im just saying theres an easy way to change spell books u can also use the altar in priff to change spell books as well i just didnt mention it cause i wasnt sure which game we were talking about

ur complaint is theres no astral portal in abyss but what other altars has a teleport close to the actual altar? all other spells dont even use astrals aside from ancients (which u also have to switch to in a frankly more annoying way than lunar spells) and even without 99 mage u can still switch spell books in priff
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30-Mar-2023 23:42:31

Bertel62
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I don't see what the spellbook has to do with anything. You don't need to be on lunar spells to make astral runes, just like you don't need to be on ancient spells to make death runes.

I do support the option of crafting astral runes through the abyss, mostly for the extra XP it gives.

If it's a problem that it doesn't need a talisman, then change it so it does need one.

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