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boidae said :
think this whole thread explains the problem with the forums
people speculating and arguing about people, shaming people, people with bad reputation, people that give their 2 cents on their high horse etc etc constant hysteria, you should all be on rants complaining about how mucky the threads are and how theyre allowed to be in item discussion, take anger out on jagex rather than each other

all item discussion needs is clean threads with no random chatter and easy to read recent legit street prices with the odd item question

not disrupting people I did not graveyard bump this thread, but since it's already up:

It is fun to talk about merching. It is fun to read various theories. I enjoy it. And yes, 99% of merch theories are fake. And some prices are fake. And manip is heavy.

It's sort of fun trying to sift through it all, to figure what's real, to make an estimation on values and trends. I believe people are too unhappy. They should instead sit back and look at how wonderful this all is. It's a fun game. Merching, at times, has been the best thing about runescape, just the act of merching, not even the profit so much.

I hope y'all will post theories in citi's thread. I'm not sure this one is still "living." Even if you just started the game, if you have a theory about crackers or rainbow capes or... anything. Post it! Maybe you bought a few cerb pets and hope they'll go up one day. It can be anything, even cheap stuff. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.

01-May-2021 05:36:59 - Last edited on 01-May-2021 05:38:56 by Trip180

Just to say though, I find it annoying that every post a person makes is followed with "ugh, he's trying to profit."

The game should be fun too. It's interesting to just consider different items, trends, possibilities. I just think many aren't appreciating the fun of merching. It's not just zero sum scamming your neighbor. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.

01-May-2021 05:52:05

01-May-2021 07:40:17

01-May-2021 13:15:20

Profz,

I mean item discussion, discussing items, is fun, or can be.

Regarding the other stuff you mention, I don't comprehend what alternative there is.

If I'm selling an assassin walk, there might be 2 or 3 sellers. A buyer will pm each one of us, and if he wants, he might buy from the cheapest of us. Or, he might go on discord to find more sellers there. Or, he might just wait. Everyone wants an official "price," but there's not always a clear "price" on rare items.

Phats are so high now that some degree of merching is probably needed to reach them.

We've always had scammers. Merchants are known to be one step removed from lurers. The act of merching is itself corrupting. The only way that changes is if the game is turned off.

But separate from that, you have enormous demand for things like walks and phats. With a limited number in game, prices just go higher and higher. It's not necessarily a scam if 10 people want an item and just keep offering more, and more, and more.

Especially after gp was duped. The controversy isn't that there was a dupe. Jagex admitted there was. The controversy is whether it affected the economy. Jagex said no, but prices went up. Maybe things went up for another reason.

But you can't sustain phats at these prices if everything is fake. If there's never a crash, then the rise is real. Manip only works short term. Eventually, the market kicks in.

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If a staker logs in who just won some outrageous sum of gp, he might pay double what others are offering just because we're ants to him. Does that trade then become "fake" if he overpaid? If a rwt logs in dumping his hat to sell gp, does that trade then become "fake" if he undersold? If someone panics and over/underpays, is that trade "fake"?

It's not such a simple thing. Crazy prices happen, maybe more often than "real" trades, especially as these items become increasingly rare. Margins are enormous. It's just not all fake, and it's unproductive to get angry. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.

01-May-2021 19:58:57 - Last edited on 01-May-2021 20:07:25 by Trip180

Profz,

The problem, in my view, is primarily the angry people who disrupt the forums with complaints. I get that it's fun to complain, but I don't want to see it.

Any comment made, any price given, any action taken results in some angry person accusing me of being a scammer. That's not fun. As a result, few want to use the forums. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.

01-May-2021 20:01:12 - Last edited on 01-May-2021 20:12:55 by Trip180