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Alsinda
Apr Member 2019

Alsinda

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Observation on Second-age and the new feature of showing volume traded on GE graph.

Possibly the game is revealing the mechanics of how it slows the price movement?

The volume traded is buffered unless this new feature is flawed. I can tell you that Second-age Bow numbers are off by right around 30/day volume traded.

Some of the other second-age pieces look buffered even more depending on how many are in the game possibly. It would make the item to appear to be traded more median price if you do the math.

I think this data needs to be fixed and accurate if by error. If intentional, it's misleading to the item that is buffered and doesn't reflect true volume of that item traded so it shouldn't be there.

Tuffty, sorry if this is not in correct place but the game should fix this.

30-Jun-2023 06:54:20

godekloot xd
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godekloot xd

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Hello Alsinda,

There are definitely errors into it.
We have a wrong view of the actual trades.

I note that every day the volume that we trade, is added of the day before.

Afther a new period, it looks like, that the volume starts again from 0 trades & then each day it shows again a few more.

So I see currently a rising graph for multiple days, that reset itself again.

No worries, but the amount of the specific item that you say for example, cannot be the right chiffer.
That would surprise me greatly.

Greetings,

Godekloot

30-Jun-2023 09:15:40

Alsinda
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I appreciate the feedback. It is definitely false and not just a one day delay. I can tell you for 3 day period I had the specific item controlled in the GE. I had orders in buy and sell so there was not even a way the roughly extra 30 could have been traded over my prices. It just didn't and isn't happening. And it's not just bow, it is all second-age, I just can't prove the others like I can bow. The only reason I can think of intentionally doing this is a cheap programming way to slow second-age item ge changes...

30-Jun-2023 18:26:13

4p
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4p

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Alsinda said :
The only reason I can think of intentionally doing this is a cheap programming way to slow second-age item ge changes...

Is that a tinfoil hat you're wearing? That's a very specific conspiracy theory regarding Jagex and Second-Age items on the Grand Exchange...

Take your eyes off Second-Age items for just 30 seconds. If you look at discontinued items, or any other item with an expected low trade volume, you will see exactly the same pattern. One thing we do know is this broke with the max cash update. We know this because if you look at the White partyhat graph, change it to 6 months, you'll see one traded on the GE on 5th March 2023, and the number reset the following day.

Also, as a direct example, have you tried changing the Second-Age bow to 6 months to see what that looks like? You can clearly see it stops working with the max cash update.

Almost every day since the max cash update, these daily updates have been cumulative. This isn't to hide anything. There is no conspiracy around this. It's simply broken.

You can work out the daily trade amount by subtracting from the previous day.

Second-Age bow:
June 25th: 46 || (let's call this 0 for the sake of example).
June 26th: 59 || 59 - 46 = 13. This means 13 were traded on June 26th.
June 27th: 65 || 65 - 59 = 6. This means 6 were traded on June 27th.
June 28th: 67 || 67 - 65 = 2. This means 2 were traded on June 28th.

You can safely go back as far as 15th June because it went a bit weird on 12th, 13th & 14th.

30-Jun-2023 23:06:12 - Last edited on 30-Jun-2023 23:22:40 by 4p

4p
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Right-click the picture and click 'Open image in new tab' - or download it

This is the daily 'change' of all Second-Age items between 15th June -> 29th June.

Again, there is no conspiracy. Jagex aren't trying to ruin your profit margins. Your Second-Age items are safe... the graph is just broken for almost all items.

30-Jun-2023 23:18:41

Alsinda
Apr Member 2019

Alsinda

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Thanks 4P!
Whatever they pay you at Jagex isn't enough man. Tell them you need a raise, I appreciate the info. Although I believe I did say one option was that it was broken so you can wind down the Tinfoil junk and your typical on my &^%$#@%& a@@ like you always do and find something constructive to do.

Thanks again, I don't know where this exact info was posted about the system being broke but it must be with your response. Have a good one Pal.

01-Jul-2023 03:32:50

Raphtalia6
Oct Member 2017

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every item is having issues with the quantity volume atm, its best to ignore it till there is a fix.

@4p, is your theory consistent on every items(the day 2 minus day 1=real day2).?

if thats the case isnt it a minor programming error that could be fixed in a day?.

@Alsinda, the info was publicly made and confirmed on twitter i think and its for all items.

i recommend to make sure to report the bug to jagex if your not sure that they are on the case.



btw tinfoil hats are meta... :p trusting certain pc lists or prices of items or websites that dont belong to jagex will get you into trouble notice: external websites and trades are your responsibility, dont get fooled!.

01-Jul-2023 09:43:55

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