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22-Nov-2021 00:26:31

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Friendly reminder to check out this thread to avoid falling victim to manipulation:

[Beware] Price Manipulation

- Investigate accounts which people claim to trade with, be cautious if the account seems to be inactive for the last few months or appears to be an alt.

- Check a persons post history to see if they only list their sales and not buys or vice versa, this will show their intentions very clearly. (if they only list sales, they are trying to inflate, if they only list buys, they are trying to get the prices to go down.


- Sometimes people inflate their sales by overpricing an item involved in the trade.

- Sometimes people post ranges for their own benefit and don't reflect the recent trades.

- Some users will change their examine to claim they are accurate PC'ers, because this falls in a grey area and Fmods are unable to take action, be aware that some of these are false, they may even mention this in their post to try and deceive people.


- If a post looks suspicious, for example failing to mention second parties, screenshots, prices that seem very inaccurate compared to recent trades within the thread, then be very cautious.

- People that manipulate and use false ranges usually appear off in game and are never online to answer any queries about their ranges.

- Research the ranges advertised, to see if they include actual recent trades within the thread.

- Look for reports verified by both parties involved with the transactions.


It's a team effort to keep the community safe, since the Fmods/Jmods can't to do anything about it

22-Nov-2021 01:36:22

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22-Nov-2021 01:42:25

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Yet again posts have been removed for making accusations, which are not permitted on the forums.
Tren said :
Again:
Tren said :
Please remember that you may not make accusations or insinuations about others on the forums. If you disagree with or do not believe prices or ranges posted, then you are free to ignore them. There is no need to make editorial comments on them or flame those posting. As J Mods have said in the past:
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We advise everyone to do their own research before participating in discontinued and/or high value items.
Thanks
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22-Nov-2021 02:12:39

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22-Nov-2021 02:53:42

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@ GuWunna - Please don't repost hidden posts. I understand you have doubts about the veracity of certain sales reports. As I mentioned above, rather than take this thread off track by calling them out, just ignore them when doing your own price research.
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22-Nov-2021 03:12:22

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A reminder to all:

Although there no longer is a sticky here for reporting price manipulation, you may use the
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email address, if you'd like to apprise Jagex of suspected price manipulation.
Other than the change with the sticky, the advice post CM Nick made on one of the status threads in this forum a couple of years ago still stands:
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Okay, I've hidden some more off-topic posts, and I'd just like to say something here...

When it all comes down to it, even though we are obviously invested in fostering a safe place for Item Discussion and price checking - Trusting prices listed on the forums is always done so at your own risk.


Let me be clear - price manipulation is not in the spirit of the community, nor is it what this forum is for, and it is not tolerated or encouraged by any means! Price manipulation goes against the spirit of the community, and especially the spirit of these threads!

HOWEVER, objectively determining if someone is actually price manipulating is a time-consuming and often fruitless process, and is not something that FMods or even CMs are tasked with doing.

It has become enough of a task for the Mod team to just keep this thread in check in regards to keeping it on-topic these days, and as you know, there is a dedicated thread for issues of price manipulation and - say what you want to about its effectiveness - that IS the official channel to use for these sorts of situations, and you all should know enough not to bring accusations into ID threads.

Posting accusations and the like in this thread is just more derailment, creates more work for the moderation team, and ultimately doesn't solve anything aside from getting pages of posts hidden.

Please, going forward, I'd love if the users on this thread could act in good faith and work together in the interest of the community and to keep the personal arguments and price manipulation accusations out of this thread.

Thank you!
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