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Derack
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Don't mind my word nor writing, i live under a rock.

So another (potential) god death is on the horizon, another one of the two big three no less.

I worry it is gonna end with Zamorak's death for certainty, and i hope it isn't so. Even if it's in a blaze of glory.
Sure i don't mind a fight with a god for once, and seems like a fitting opponent, but, is this Jagex just saying "One by one they will be written off, and we'll focus on a other (new )storyline."

Ever since the they decided they made the World guardian neutral regardless of the choices that is made and allegiance sworn. I feel like throwing another god and this time for real under the bus isn't another great idea, even the entire storlyine feels out of line with it's cuts and corners.
What happend with carving your own path and make your own choices to change Gielinors fate?

*looks at Bandos* Sure Bandos was a bad one, but unlike Zammy they didn't really give him redeeming qualitys and wrote it off as a "meh"

I know Serenists and Zarosians got the short end of the stick as well, even Guthixians/Godless and Sliskeans (but really, who ever suspected this to go anywhere with Sliske?). But with Zamorak it seems it's going a but to extremes here, if only Jagex gave some more info about this, that would help.

I know eventually another god is gonna kick the bucket or betray us or whatever, but i expected our choices and decisions to matter during the entire 6 age, with all of this it feels like it was all of a bland joke.

TLDR; Wut? More information plz Jagex.
"If you believe you can distance yourself from the harm you cause, you're deluding yourself. You're not some mindless tool. You're accountable. Your actions will catch up with you eventually." -Jedi Master Jun Seros; Swtor Bounty Hunter storyline.

27-Apr-2022 20:48:42

Derack
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"If you believe you can distance yourself from the harm you cause, you're deluding yourself. You're not some mindless tool. You're accountable. Your actions will catch up with you eventually." -Jedi Master Jun Seros; Swtor Bounty Hunter storyline.

27-Apr-2022 20:48:47

Dilbert2001
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Death in Runescape is like sleeping. A dead NPC will wake up the next morning and find themselves becoming something else.

Who care if Zamorak dies? he will remain in existence in another form and/or in another place. The question is whether that form or place is of any knowledge to any NPC on Gielinor.

Maybe we kill Zamorak. Maybe we kill him and he ends up in Erebus with Zaros and other dead Mahjarrat. Maybe he will return one day as Memory of Zamorak or Echo of Zamorak or Fragments of Zamorak.

Zamorak better dies and meet Zaros in Erebus. It will be more story worthy that way as a god than just a myth that we can't interact with.

27-Apr-2022 23:46:34

Derack
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Dilbert2001 said :
Who care if Zamorak dies? That's quite a bold and ignorant thing to say.

Dilbert2001 said :
Maybe we kill Zamorak. Maybe we kill him and he ends up in Erebus with Zaros and other dead Mahjarrat. Maybe he will return one day as Memory of Zamorak or Echo of Zamorak or Fragments of Zamorak.

Zamorak better dies and meet Zaros in Erebus. It will be more story worthy that way as a god than just a myth that we can't interact with.

"ends up in Erebus" Last time i checked when a mortal ascends - aka godhood - they forgo their soul and once they die, they are dead for ever.

Even if it's the case it could become a interesting plot device.

Dilbert2001 said :
Zamorak better dies and meet Zaros in Erebus. That's just a rude thing to say. Not many, including my self if you forgot tends and will have to disagree with that statement.

Why? You want a third rematch between them? Zaros as no interest in fighting unless must or provoked, i bet even Zamorak has no interest, unless his son got threatend again whatever, or Zaros doesn't give into Zammy's demands.
"If you believe you can distance yourself from the harm you cause, you're deluding yourself. You're not some mindless tool. You're accountable. Your actions will catch up with you eventually." -Jedi Master Jun Seros; Swtor Bounty Hunter storyline.

28-Apr-2022 19:54:02

Dilbert2001
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^^
Nobody can confirm a god doesn't have a soul. At least The Magister told us an obviously divine soul is in the desert. Nobody can actually define "godhood" and "death" in Runescape anyway.

Wouldn't Zaros want to rule over everything including Zamorak in Erebus or other new planes? I doubt Zamorak even has a chance to "fight" Zaros who has the protection to stay alive there and probably has sided with their Rulers already. Even more doubtful when Zamorak dies he will still keep his powers anyway.

28-Apr-2022 20:14:32

Derack
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Dilbert2001 said :
^^
Nobody can confirm a god doesn't have a soul. At least The Magister told us an obviously divine soul is in the desert. Nobody can actually define "godhood" and "death" in Runescape anyway.

Wouldn't Zaros want to rule over everything including Zamorak in Erebus or other new planes? I doubt Zamorak even has a chance to "fight" Zaros who has the protection to stay alive there and probably has sided with their Rulers already. Even more doubtful when Zamorak dies he will still keep his powers anyway.

Perhaps.
The divine soul could be referd to Tumeken's hearth, Kharid-Ib for all we know.

I believe Zaros is like Saradomin, no trouble working with other divine beings, but, wants to be the one at the top.
If at best Zaros would work with the rulers in Erebus, until he finds a way to be the one at the top of the food chain of it. Zamorak may lose again or win, ultimately, it will all depends on how Jagex is gonna roll it.
"If you believe you can distance yourself from the harm you cause, you're deluding yourself. You're not some mindless tool. You're accountable. Your actions will catch up with you eventually." -Jedi Master Jun Seros; Swtor Bounty Hunter storyline.

30-Apr-2022 22:04:07

Dilbert2001
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Derack said :
Dilbert2001 said :
^^
Nobody can confirm a god doesn't have a soul. At least The Magister told us an obviously divine soul is in the desert. Nobody can actually define "godhood" and "death" in Runescape anyway.

Wouldn't Zaros want to rule over everything including Zamorak in Erebus or other new planes? I doubt Zamorak even has a chance to "fight" Zaros who has the protection to stay alive there and probably has sided with their Rulers already. Even more doubtful when Zamorak dies he will still keep his powers anyway.

Perhaps.
The divine soul could be referd to Tumeken's hearth, Kharid-Ib for all we know.

I believe Zaros is like Saradomin, no trouble working with other divine beings, but, wants to be the one at the top.
If at best Zaros would work with the rulers in Erebus, until he finds a way to be the one at the top of the food chain of it. Zamorak may lose again or win, ultimately, it will all depends on how Jagex is gonna roll it.

Every being must have something to carry their memories. We have already learned from the Elder Gods passing their knowledge and memories to their eggs. The elder hatchlings recognized Seren. It is a definitive proof of it already.

Scientifically Zaros and Seren died when their physical bodies died. However, they were able to return to life with full memories of their past. They are definitely gods too.

01-May-2022 00:37:30

Dilbert2001
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Another plausible theory is some dead beings may reincarnate as something else while losing all their memories. If Zamorak dies and comes back later as a cat like Robert the Strong then there will be no concerns as he will only be passive part of the lore but not a factor to the future lore as like Bob the cat he will have no powers and no knowledge of his past live.

09-May-2022 20:02:08

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