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Abby Taylor
Nov Member 2019

Abby Taylor

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Note: My opinions will mostly center around the feminine body type since that is what I play as 99% of the time and find more relatable. but I will also give my opinion on the masculine type as well since my feedback can be applied to both.


General Concerns:


My general concern is that it's very limiting to just have 2 choices, Hyper Masculine and Hyper feminine.

one of the major differences is how insanely busty the feminine body type is with the avatar refresh. A busty body type is absolutely fine, but there are Feminine bodies which can be petite as well.
Masculine bodies do not have to be so insanely muscular either.

The problem is a lack of choice right? because as I see it we are only getting 2 choices between hyper masculine and hyper feminine. and the new face that comes with them.

personally I just find it more difficult to relate to a huge wide hipped big butted adventurer. and want the OPTION to continue playing with a more petite body type.


Possible Solutions:


I find it weird that jagex is spending so much time and energy reworking / revamping the player avatar, only for it to be a superficial graphical improvement, and we aren't getting any new options.

The reason people don't relate well to the avatar is because we've never had any OPTIONS. we only get the stock design given to us.
If you want people to relate to their character it's not as simple as just upgrading it to be more "attractive"

It might be more work but there needs to be customization options with this.
don't just force us into a new body and expect us to love it. let us personalize our body a little bit.

let people choose how square they want their jaw, or how wide they want their hips to be.
let us choose our eye color, and muscle definition. let the players decide how skinny or "buff" the legs and arms should be, so we can all have unique personalized bodies.

or at the very least a COUPLE presets.
200m Woodcutting: 08/08/2021

Completionist: 09/10/2021

14-Feb-2021 02:13:51

Abby Taylor
Nov Member 2019

Abby Taylor

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Most people know that gender is a spectrum. and that masculine bodies and female bodies come in all different shapes and sizes.

there is no one size fits all "male" body type or "female" body type. Men can be skinny and short, or tall and heavy.

If we don't get customization options then there will 100% be people who hate the refresh, and there will be people who love it.
personalization and customization is the key to making the most people happy, even if it means more work and possible delays, but it would be worth it.

In the end you want to create a product which maximizes enjoyment of the game right?
You don't want to push a new character body that makes players angry or sad. It is in the games best interest to possibly delay a feature than to release something that will make a few players happy, but make others very very upset.


More feedback:


-The hips on the feminine body are way to wide for my liking
-The masculine body seems absurdly muscular to the point of being comical
-The faces on both are somewhat bland and uninteresting (which is both good and bad for some, while the OPTION to customize the face would be an absolute positive)
-Makeup options could allow players to more easily customize the face

I would like to see petite and heavy body options for both the masculine and feminine bodies.
200m Woodcutting: 08/08/2021

Completionist: 09/10/2021

14-Feb-2021 02:15:55 - Last edited on 14-Feb-2021 02:26:09 by Abby Taylor

ErkalEtruria
Mar Member 2023

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My Personal Opinion

I agree wholeheartedly about this. Have you looked into other MMOS and taken a look at how those games have their avatars created?


Hair

<1-•--------------------------30>
Hair Color

<-•-------->
Eyes

<------------•>
Eye Color

<---•--->

It eventually gets down to height and waist size. Even bust size comes into play or it may even say chest or torso with a slider bar for sizing. I am happy we finally have a second avatar to pick from which is a start, but I do wish they weren't fixed unless they were to release tons of avatars for us to pick from as apposed to giving us room to more freely customize as much as we like.
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Abby Taylor
Nov Member 2019

Abby Taylor

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Amascutian said :
I think the problem is that they'd have to make a lot of variations of the outfit pieces for all body types. Skinny amare outfit, fat amare outfit, muscular amare outfit and that would be too difficult.

I just think it's crazy how many months and months they are spending creating just one male and one female body with no variations....

not only is that a gigantic waste of time for something so simplistic, but it's also going to really upset the people who prefer the current bodies.

It's one of those updates that isn't going to draw new players in, while pushing away older players.
Jagex has a long history of slapping it's veterans in the face at every turn. It's just sad to see them wasting so much time on something that isn't going to make the game that much better.

There has to be options and customization or the whole update is just a nothingburger. waste of dev time if you ask me.
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15-Mar-2021 14:16:02

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

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Abby Taylor said :
Amascutian said :
I think the problem is that they'd have to make a lot of variations of the outfit pieces for all body types. Skinny amare outfit, fat amare outfit, muscular amare outfit and that would be too difficult.

I just think it's crazy how many months and months they are spending creating just one male and one female body with no variations....

not only is that a gigantic waste of time for something so simplistic, but it's also going to really upset the people who prefer the current bodies.

It's one of those updates that isn't going to draw new players in, while pushing away older players.
Jagex has a long history of slapping it's veterans in the face at every turn. It's just sad to see them wasting so much time on something that isn't going to make the game that much better.

There has to be options and customization or the whole update is just a nothingburger. waste of dev time if you ask me.

Do you know the Avatar Refresh is just the first step for more changes in the future?

Actual data shows RS3 is getting more than 10% concurrent players since the announcement of the Avatar Refresh in the week of Dec 21. :)

https://www.misplaceditems.com/rs_tools/graph/?display=avg&interval=week&total=1

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Abby Taylor
Nov Member 2019

Abby Taylor

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Dilbert2001 said :
HeavensBunny said :
Yea I don't think the avatar refresh is entirely responsible for that. But nice try! :)

No matter what you think the Avatar Refresh announcement certainly didn't cause RS3 to lose like 10% of concurrent players like some games with ugly graphics and doesn't want to make change in the same period. :)

I'm fairly sure that Runescape didn't lose any players with the announcement because the update hasn't been forced on us yet.

I would imagine the people who would leave the game would leave AFTER the update went through.

and you mean Feb 11 not December?
The 10% increase in players was most likely related to the 20th anniversary grand party, double exp live event,
or Raksha the new boss that came out in December.
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