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RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
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RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
21-Jan-2023 15:25:37 - Last edited on 21-Jan-2023 15:31:03 by Ruby_Red0
noninie
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I do not disagree with this point, although I understand the reasoning for the entire update. My next comment is extra.
As an Ironman, my combat preparation is paid for in time not money. Since I can't spend money on my preparation, I'm not sure how much the expense change will affect me; dying could be a comparatively bad idea for me anyway.
Another point:
"If I kill something relevant and get a special drop just feels meaningless because I never invested or risked anything."
That feeling might not be new.
Another point:
That's what you signed up for when you desided to do Ironman. You wanted to invest time.
You do generate coin. If you were lucky enough to get a drop that you could alch for 300k gps, what would you spend it on?
Repairs
Death Costs
Whatever you can buy from NPCs
What else?
Im starting to look at a successful longtime Ironman toon like the Dwarves in Lord of the Rings - jealously guarding their mountain of gold, lol.
If I invested a lot of time on an Ironman toon, I agree I probably wouldnt be putting it in harms way any more than I had to.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
I do not disagree with this point, although I understand the reasoning for the entire update. My next comment is extra.
As an Ironman, my combat preparation is paid for in time not money. Since I can't spend money on my preparation, I'm not sure how much the expense change will affect me; dying could be a comparatively bad idea for me anyway.
Another point:
"If I kill something relevant and get a special drop just feels meaningless because I never invested or risked anything."
That feeling might not be new.
Another point:
That's what you signed up for when you desided to do Ironman. You wanted to invest time.
You do generate coin. If you were lucky enough to get a drop that you could alch for 300k gps, what would you spend it on?
Repairs
Death Costs
Whatever you can buy from NPCs
What else?
Im starting to look at a successful longtime Ironman toon like the Dwarves in Lord of the Rings - jealously guarding their mountain of gold, lol.
If I invested a lot of time on an Ironman toon, I agree I probably wouldnt be putting it in harms way any more than I had to.
New(ish) Player
:
This is YOUR world, and I'm just a squirrel tryin' to get a nut.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
21-Jan-2023 15:29:27 - Last edited on 21-Jan-2023 15:54:43 by Ruby_Red0
DiaboMalandr
said
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Make death meaningful or create hardcore worlds.
SO MY REQUEST IS:
Either make death meaningfull , or introduce hardcore worlds, where if you die you lose most of your equipment and 1% xp in all skills.
You know, a Hardcore Server or two might be a good Idea if you think there are enough players that would appreciate taking that kind of harsh hit if they fail their task.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
Make death meaningful or create hardcore worlds.
SO MY REQUEST IS:
Either make death meaningfull , or introduce hardcore worlds, where if you die you lose most of your equipment and 1% xp in all skills.
You know, a Hardcore Server or two might be a good Idea if you think there are enough players that would appreciate taking that kind of harsh hit if they fail their task.
New(ish) Player
:
This is YOUR world, and I'm just a squirrel tryin' to get a nut.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
21-Jan-2023 15:52:43 - Last edited on 21-Jan-2023 15:56:17 by Ruby_Red0
DiaboMalandr
said
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Let me tell you a story:
I was killing Hollowfoot, and had to go to the bathroom (no worries, that's how interesting combat currently is), when I come back my character had unexpectedly died.
Slightly annoying, so I had to pay the death tax which for over 40k in equipment was 541 gp.
You could have told your story without giving away the secret to my success!
The Imps could of just as well been our little secret.
Apparently the PvM community is not afraid of Bossing, but Imps scare the bejesus out of a
great deal of them. Afterall, Imps can be quite feisty.
Im just kidding around. There is an effort out there to make Bossing more attractive to players that dont do it. Possibly there could be people that have trouble finding players to run with, I dont know. Death costs, no matter how small, is the usual excuse given for not doing it. And maybe for many, it is a drawback. I would imagine for most, they simply arent ready yet, or simply not interested - not their thing and they are not gonna do it ever. Runescape is so diversified that it would be silly not to take into account that people may not be playing for Boss encounters alone.
I think trying to get players into Boss encounters before their toon is of the level to compete is also a drawback. Skills are very intermingled or co-dependent on other skills (ex: Invention) in this game. Also, you need time to learn your own ability mechanics. Im doing that now, leveling Slayer.
Lower death costs may encourage players to get their feet wet at Bossing, but thats not how doing Endgame Content traditionally works. Endgame Content is for those that have their skills, gears etc to at least a basic acceptable point to join a team.
That's why its called Endgame Content - its the thing you do once you have done everything else.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
Let me tell you a story:
I was killing Hollowfoot, and had to go to the bathroom (no worries, that's how interesting combat currently is), when I come back my character had unexpectedly died.
Slightly annoying, so I had to pay the death tax which for over 40k in equipment was 541 gp.
Let that sink in, you can get 5-6k from killing an imp
, and almost 2k from killing a chicken.
You could have told your story without giving away the secret to my success!
The Imps could of just as well been our little secret.
Apparently the PvM community is not afraid of Bossing, but Imps scare the bejesus out of a
great deal of them. Afterall, Imps can be quite feisty.
Im just kidding around. There is an effort out there to make Bossing more attractive to players that dont do it. Possibly there could be people that have trouble finding players to run with, I dont know. Death costs, no matter how small, is the usual excuse given for not doing it. And maybe for many, it is a drawback. I would imagine for most, they simply arent ready yet, or simply not interested - not their thing and they are not gonna do it ever. Runescape is so diversified that it would be silly not to take into account that people may not be playing for Boss encounters alone.
I think trying to get players into Boss encounters before their toon is of the level to compete is also a drawback. Skills are very intermingled or co-dependent on other skills (ex: Invention) in this game. Also, you need time to learn your own ability mechanics. Im doing that now, leveling Slayer.
Lower death costs may encourage players to get their feet wet at Bossing, but thats not how doing Endgame Content traditionally works. Endgame Content is for those that have their skills, gears etc to at least a basic acceptable point to join a team.
That's why its called Endgame Content - its the thing you do once you have done everything else.
New(ish) Player
:
This is YOUR world, and I'm just a squirrel tryin' to get a nut.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
21-Jan-2023 17:18:42 - Last edited on 21-Jan-2023 17:36:21 by Ruby_Red0
DiaboMalandr
,
Close to the lodestone of Varrock there is Mays Quest Caravan.
She can hook you up with Armour of Trials and a weapon called Vanquish if you dont have them already.
Its really good gear. I still use it for Questing and such because it has no repair costs and you dont lose it on death (unless you die in the Wilderness).
The Armour comes in level 25, 50 and 75. You can use the level 50 now, and it automatically scales up to 75 as you level.
Im 99 Defense and I still use the level 75.
Its hybrid armour so its good for melee, range and magic.
I think you need 125 quest points for the armour
and 75 attack, range and magic for Vanquish.
I could be wrong as I got it a while ago but talk to May next time you are at the lodestone.
Trust me good stuff, and its saves a lot of wear and tear when you are a higher level and get premium armours.
Im just saying...
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
Close to the lodestone of Varrock there is Mays Quest Caravan.
She can hook you up with Armour of Trials and a weapon called Vanquish if you dont have them already.
Its really good gear. I still use it for Questing and such because it has no repair costs and you dont lose it on death (unless you die in the Wilderness).
The Armour comes in level 25, 50 and 75. You can use the level 50 now, and it automatically scales up to 75 as you level.
Im 99 Defense and I still use the level 75.
Its hybrid armour so its good for melee, range and magic.
I think you need 125 quest points for the armour
and 75 attack, range and magic for Vanquish.
I could be wrong as I got it a while ago but talk to May next time you are at the lodestone.
Trust me good stuff, and its saves a lot of wear and tear when you are a higher level and get premium armours.
Im just saying...
New(ish) Player
:
This is YOUR world, and I'm just a squirrel tryin' to get a nut.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
22-Jan-2023 02:50:17 - Last edited on 22-Jan-2023 03:20:24 by Ruby_Red0
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