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Horsechaser
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I recently came into possession of a portable obelisk from the Wilderness Flash Events. A very useful item, to be able to telport to any wilderness obelisk from almost anywhere in Gielinor right?

Well......imagine my surprise when I tried to use it at the level 54 wild bloodwood tree to teleport to the obelisk at level 18 wild for the next bloodwood tree....and getting the message to the effect that "teleport blocked...cannot use this past level 20 wild.

Now just a doggone minute!!!!!!! This is a portable obelisk. Portable WILDERNESS obelisk, and therefore should work anywhere in the wilderness, WITHOUT RESTRICTION. Seems to me that the logic of it not operating past level 20 wild is flawed, given that its a portable WILDERNESS obelisk. After all, all OTHER wilderness obelisks work in whatever level of wildernass they happen to be located...right?

Come on jagex. This should be fixed.

29-Oct-2022 21:10:56 - Last edited on 29-Oct-2022 21:12:16 by Horsechaser

Dilbert2001
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Obelisk and Portable Obelisk are two different things. Of course they can behave differently.

Obelisk teleport has a delay but Portable Obelisk gives instant teleportation. Obelisk can give random teleport but Portable Obelisk doesn't have this function.

Besides, it is the Wildy. Things are supposed to be chaotic. What logic?

30-Oct-2022 01:26:02

Dilbert2001
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BTW, nothing in the Reborn Wildy follows any "logic" after we the World Guardian kicked Zamorak's butt.

Don't you realize the KBD in the Flash Events doesn't behave like the old KBD any more? This KBD is actually more like Varak Lith now. That's why we found him near ED2 and he uses his stomp attacks and spire just like Verak Lith. ;)

That's the new logic in the new Wildy without Zamorak. :)

30-Oct-2022 02:10:10

Horsechaser
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Not particularly useful if it doesnt work anywhere in wild. I guess on the upside, latest ninja strike says they are now alchemizable, so I can alch this useless bank space waster for some gp.

But my point stands. Its a portable wilderness obelisk and should work anywhere in wilderness. Not very useful otherwise.

31-Oct-2022 18:40:41

Dilbert2001
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Horsechaser said :
Not particularly useful if it doesnt work anywhere in wild. I guess on the upside, latest ninja strike says they are now alchemizable, so I can alch this useless bank space waster for some gp.

But my point stands. Its a portable wilderness obelisk and should work anywhere in wilderness. Not very useful otherwise.

They are alchable now because we can get more than 1 of them. Your choice if you want to alch all of them.

I really like it as it helps a lot to move around various wildy locations. There is also no saying new content in the future won't make it even more useful.

31-Oct-2022 18:49:21

Loch Ars
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Dilbert2001 said :
Obelisk can give random teleport but Portable Obelisk doesn't have this function.

This is incorrect. Both teleport you to a random obelisk unless you have the Wilderness Area Tasks reward that permits choosing the destination.

31-Oct-2022 20:16:26

Dilbert2001
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Loch Ars said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Obelisk can give random teleport but Portable Obelisk doesn't have this function.

This is incorrect. Both teleport you to a random obelisk unless you have the Wilderness Area Tasks reward that permits choosing the destination.

Yes, to be more specific we need to complete game content to unlock full functionalities of a lot of items, obelisks included. However, pertaining to this thread, obelisks and portable obelisks are two different items and logically may behave differently. For instance, we can easily tell portable workbench and regular workbenches aren't exactly the same as the portables give 10% chance to produce to say the least.

31-Oct-2022 20:37:46

Jack Flac
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Dilbert2001 said :
Horsechaser said :
Not particularly useful if it doesnt work anywhere in wild. I guess on the upside, latest ninja strike says they are now alchemizable, so I can alch this useless bank space waster for some gp.

But my point stands. Its a portable wilderness obelisk and should work anywhere in wilderness. Not very useful otherwise.

They are alchable now because we can get more than 1 of them. Your choice if you want to alch all of them.

I really like it as it helps a lot to move around various wildy locations. There is also no saying new content in the future won't make it even more useful. If you want to get to an obelisk from outside the wilderness, just do what you did prior to the update. Tele to the herb patch and run east, or tele to the lodestone and run west. This Doesn't add anything of significance as it stands. Leader of The Enemy ||
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31-Oct-2022 23:18:23

Dilbert2001
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Jack Flac said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Horsechaser said :
Not particularly useful if it doesnt work anywhere in wild. I guess on the upside, latest ninja strike says they are now alchemizable, so I can alch this useless bank space waster for some gp.

But my point stands. Its a portable wilderness obelisk and should work anywhere in wilderness. Not very useful otherwise.

They are alchable now because we can get more than 1 of them. Your choice if you want to alch all of them.

I really like it as it helps a lot to move around various wildy locations. There is also no saying new content in the future won't make it even more useful. If you want to get to an obelisk from outside the wilderness, just do what you did prior to the update. Tele to the herb patch and run east, or tele to the lodestone and run west. This Doesn't add anything of significance as it stands.

The significant point is time saved to get to an obelisk from outside the Wilderness. First it takes seconds to teleport to Edge, then It takes like 30 seconds to go from Edge to the closest obelisk, plus there it takes another 10 seconds to operate, run to the center of it and wait for the teleportation.

31-Oct-2022 23:38:21

Jack Flac
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Dilbert2001 said :
Jack Flac said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Horsechaser said :
Not particularly useful if it doesnt work anywhere in wild. I guess on the upside, latest ninja strike says they are now alchemizable, so I can alch this useless bank space waster for some gp.

But my point stands. Its a portable wilderness obelisk and should work anywhere in wilderness. Not very useful otherwise.

They are alchable now because we can get more than 1 of them. Your choice if you want to alch all of them.

I really like it as it helps a lot to move around various wildy locations. There is also no saying new content in the future won't make it even more useful. If you want to get to an obelisk from outside the wilderness, just do what you did prior to the update. Tele to the herb patch and run east, or tele to the lodestone and run west. This Doesn't add anything of significance as it stands.

The significant point is time saved to get to an obelisk from outside the Wilderness. First it takes seconds to teleport to Edge, then It takes like 30 seconds to go from Edge to the closest obelisk, plus there it takes another 10 seconds to operate, run to the center of it and wait for the teleportation. Why would you ever waste time teleing to Edgevilee just to tele to the wilderness? You can tele there from any bank. You don't even need to go to a bank. Leader of The Enemy ||
The opposite of Justice is simply another Justice. What is Evil is subjective to each person.
YOU
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01-Nov-2022 00:58:38 - Last edited on 01-Nov-2022 00:59:04 by Jack Flac

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