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ELITE STACK
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I planted 4x seeds at once and only got 20 fellstalks using the 4x seed option with using supercompost. It seems to be a nerf using the multi seed options because it seems like you get just as many herbs regardless using multi or single seed option.

08-Nov-2022 17:17:01

Dilbert2001
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For a really sample of only 1, of course you can get very low yield, or very high yield.

Herb harvests with supercompost is 5 by default with 1 seed and 9 with 4 seeds. No. you don't get just as many herbs planting 1 seed and 4 seeds. Planting 4 seeds give you AT LEAST 4 herbs more than just planting one.

08-Nov-2022 19:13:30

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08-Nov-2022 20:03:43

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If you look at the Newspost for the update, using 4 seeds instead of 1 should provide - on average - about twice as many herbs. At Level 99 planting a single herb seed with supercompost should average 11 herbs and planting 4 should give you 20.

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08-Nov-2022 22:27:19

Abby Taylor
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I planted 4 seeds in a patch and got a yield of 30 herbs.

I've averaging like 27 herbs per patch, where as before the update with only 1 seed I was averaging like 12 or 15.
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08-Nov-2022 23:52:48

Dilbert2001
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I planted 4 seeds in a patch and got a yield of 30 herbs.

I've averaging like 27 herbs per patch, where as before the update with only 1 seed I was averaging like 12 or 15.


Seems like a big buff.

09-Nov-2022 00:19:45

Abby Taylor
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I planted 4 seeds in a patch and got a yield of 30 herbs.

I've averaging like 27 herbs per patch, where as before the update with only 1 seed I was averaging like 12 or 15.


Seems like a big buff.


Yeah my profit per farm run has increased about 300-400k, and I dont even have all the upgrades yet.
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09-Nov-2022 00:23:53

Lord Willmey
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I think there is good and bad about this update.

While I tend to get the poop end of the RNG stick ( afraid I have no spoons in my bank) I did notice a fairly reduced average per 1 seed runs post update from months of normal runs.

I got about 1-2 less herbs post update on 1 stack. (limited testing, but when an average dips you notice)

My problem, is there is a reduced herb influx (not always bad) and the seed replacement plan seems to be set on 10 herbs to 1 seed. IE helwyr. Used to be 90-120 grimy lants, now its about 8-11 seeds. Fairly large dump of lants to about 1/10th of the "drop". This is obviously 1 example that stood out, but I digress. If you are reducing the influx of seeds (no mob drops reliable frequency of x4, x7, x10 seeds a drop) and have now 8 patches to utilize, unless your bank has a metic ton of seeds on standby, I dont see 4k+ seed stockpiles lasting very long.

While yes, you do get "more herbs" per time cycle with the minimum life update, and with a bit of RNG on your side, you could land slide to 140+ herbs a trip, thats also at the expense of 70-80 seeds...

IF the 10 stack seed option returned 50% value, I think I could find it a bit more tasteful of an update. As it stands, super/ultra compost gutted from this update. (3/6 = 15/x ) simple cross multiplication would be X = 30... at the moment it equals 18... so 12 less herbs under the effects of ultra compost seems wack. If X= 30 that would be 50% efficiency which is still trash, but a lot more reasonable. At best we are around 12% with compost.

I know coding can be tricky, and spaghetti math is a specialty at Jagex, but I think this is designed to be a seed dump, and herb nerf over all. Which, if they were going for farming to be profitable, and PVM harder to maintain unless you daily scape more, then they hit their mark.

09-Nov-2022 16:08:31

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