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Zulu Doggy
Aug Member 2009

Zulu Doggy

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Bought the 'Ghostly Reaver' outfit (under the Cosmetics section of the H'oddment store). The instant I clicked on OK, the game dropped a six-piece outfit into my inventory. Wait, what? This is supposed to be a cosmetic! I looked in the Customizations tab under 'Full Outfits', there's no Ghostly Reaver outfit listed. So now I have a six-piece outfit further clogging up my bank. I certainly don't want to wear a stat-less outfit, no matter how cool I think it looks.

I filled out a bug report, but am not holding my breath that it will do any good. I figured I'd let anyone who happens to be considering the outfit know that you need to make sure you REALLY want a set of clothes that have no stats...

20-Oct-2023 04:13:10

H 1 L D A
Apr Member 2020

H 1 L D A

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I think the Ghostly sets have always been item rewards since their inception in 2014, almost a decade ago.

Originally, there was no "override" interface in RuneScape, and many of the earlier items - even if purely cosmetic in nature - had to be equipped over items with stats if you wanted to wear them.

What you're going to want to do is spend some RuneCoins on an item known as Keepsake Key (you'll probably need as many keys as their are pieces of the Ghostly set) - and then fill your keepsake box interface (dragging the item into the appropriate box) with the items. That will turn your cosmetic items into cosmetic overrides, and you can lay them over your gear.

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Unfortunately, it's not a bug - it's a feature that makes Jagex a little extra money.
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20-Oct-2023 04:53:22

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

Dilbert2001

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First of all, not all cosmetic items in RS3 are skins. There are still some old ones not converted to skins yet.

The good thing is there are keepsake keys in RS3 that we didn't have in the RSC/RS2 era, we can apply them on cosmetic items and make them look like skins on our avatar.

We did get free keepsake keys from many occasions, like simply becoming a members. So if you didn't know about these goodies, the chance is you still have 6 of them free to you and waiting for you to use them. Good luck!

20-Oct-2023 17:31:19

Zulu Doggy
Aug Member 2009

Zulu Doggy

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I appreciate both of the above responses, and the effort they made to "solve" my problem. However, please allow me to point out a couple of things.

First, the robes I bought are from THIS Halloween event. They aren't old, and they are listed as cosmetic items. I understand that the old ghostly robes and ghostly fishing outfit (for examples' sake) are not cosmetic. They take up room in your bank. But the Ghostly Reaver outfit I bought with H'oddments is from the current Halloween event. You can check right now, they are for sale under the cosmetic section of the H'oddments store (I think they are 1500, could be wrong about that).

My point is, and was, that these robes are listed as "cosmetics". They aren't. Without going into the definition of cosmetic, these do not qualify. They are actual robes that must be worn as a base item - which you could (if you wanted) apply a cosmetic over the top.

And next - why would/should I have to 'keepsake' (either spend money to buy them, or use those I already own) a set of robes that have no stats, and were listed as cosmetic to begin with? That makes very little sense to me.

What I would like to see happen is TPTB actually convert these robes to the cosmetics they were advertised as.

22-Oct-2023 03:40:08

H 1 L D A
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Just because they are in a current event's H'oddments store doesn't mean they aren't older cosmetics.

In fact, it could be argued that the H'oddments store exists primarily to provide players the opportunity to purchase previous years' cosmetics after missing their debut event, which is a luxury that didn't exist until Jagex came out with the store.

The other point I'd like to make is, just because an item only has cosmetic value (i.e - it doesn't have stats or other gameplay features built into it) - it doesn't make it the same thing as a "cosmetic override."

"cosmetic items" have existed since the earliest days in RuneScape - some of which aren't even holiday items, which means you have to bank them if you want to keep them and there isn't a space for the item somewhere in your costume room.

"cosmetic overrides" are a newer concept, and because of the difference in years between cosmetics and cosmetic overrides, you have the "Keepsake Key", which allows players to turn whatever items they wish into cosmetic overrides, while also providing Jagex with a way to turn a profit.

It's a much easier fix than going through every item they've ever released in an over two decade span and changing any appropriate ones to overrides.
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22-Oct-2023 05:11:42

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

Dilbert2001

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I appreciate both of the above responses, and the effort they made to "solve" my problem. However, please allow me to point out a couple of things.

First, the robes I bought are from THIS Halloween event. They aren't old, and they are listed as cosmetic items. I understand that the old ghostly robes and ghostly fishing outfit (for examples' sake) are not cosmetic. They take up room in your bank. But the Ghostly Reaver outfit I bought with H'oddments is from the current Halloween event. You can check right now, they are for sale under the cosmetic section of the H'oddments store (I think they are 1500, could be wrong about that).

My point is, and was, that these robes are listed as "cosmetics". They aren't. Without going into the definition of cosmetic, these do not qualify. They are actual robes that must be worn as a base item - which you could (if you wanted) apply a cosmetic over the top.

And next - why would/should I have to 'keepsake' (either spend money to buy them, or use those I already own) a set of robes that have no stats, and were listed as cosmetic to begin with? That makes very little sense to me.

What I would like to see happen is TPTB actually convert these robes to the cosmetics they were advertised as.


Yes, the Ghostly Reaver Outfits are old cosmetics:

Release 16 October 2017


https://runescape.wiki/w/Ghostly_reaver_outfit

New items will have a red
"New!"
label, but the old Ghostly Reaver Outfits aren't one of them.

22-Oct-2023 19:05:06

DarthChosen
Apr Member 2017

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ye sadly its not a direct skin like you wanted, but to solve the bank space theres two options.

one as said above i think was to destroy it and diango should have it for you whenever you want (however make sure you read to see if it says that he'll take it before destroying the whole set)

and ofc the second option would be to put the set in your POH.

as for you wanting to wear the set as an override, thats another issue entirely and keepsake keys would need to be bought. you can wait til they go on sale which normally happens end of the year iirc or you can try hitting up jmods on twitter to get them to do something about it.
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23-Oct-2023 13:51:13

XSlay4DeathX
Mar Member 2007

XSlay4DeathX

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I just 'destroyed' mine, you think jagex would have updated this stuff to cosmetic, and I know they want me to buy keys, so I won't.

I don't have enough motivation to pull out my credit card for jagex, minus membership. Maybe too much MTX is choking me out. ;)

24-Oct-2023 07:49:22

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

Dilbert2001

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I just 'destroyed' mine


Most players destroy most of the cosmetic items and retrieve them from the Diango tap from the Bank interface. That's a great feature.

Eventually I think all old cosmetic items will be converted to overrides like purple Zaros skin, but because of the sheer volume of cosmetics in the 22+ years of RS3, it may take some time. However, comparing to some of the old games with antiquated cosmetics system and no overrides, RS3 is definitely light years ahead.

24-Oct-2023 17:06:50

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