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SSSavageSSS
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So roughly 30 of the top money making methods listed on the RS Wiki are bosses, some of which are sitting at 100m/hr according to the wiki which is only possible if you hit the rare drop table which lets face it is once a month if you're super lucky.

The top 2 money making methods listed on the site that aren't combat are actually a lie and a scam, one of which was just recently added so I think I'll start with the blood reaver method sitting at about 100m/hr according to the wiki, if you go buy everything for mid which it doesn't ever sell for then the numbers appear to be right.

The issue with this is that the numbers are incorrect on the site, it costs 124k per pouch needing 7200 pouches equaling about 893m input, for output you will get 178,200 scrolls at 5203 or less per each scroll as we all know one or even 10 people aren't going to buy 178,200 scrolls for the same price, this equals 899m for a whopping 6m/hr profit, not 100m/hr like the Wiki says and even if you bought and sold at mid it would take you so long to sell these items the hourly profit goes out the window.

Next on the list and is brand new is making Elder Frames, it says it's about 80m/hr profit and this was the big red flag for me, it goes off mid prices saying that refined elder planks are 16k a piece when in reality they are 60-70k a piece, there's no way they didn't know this before posting the method and if they didn't know the fact they didn't test the method before posting it is even more suspicious, at 60k per refined elder plank it would profit you 5m/hr LOL costing 97m input and output being 102m, at 70k per plank you're losing 9m/hr.

So basically the whole money making guide section of the RS wiki is a scam because taking 2 weeks to sell 172k items isn't really hourly profit is it, posting a money making method before testing it is also suspicious as hell, it's like a small group of people are trying to scam us for our gp by posting these methods guaranteed to lose money.

27-Nov-2023 03:23:05

Boss Geralt
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Hello, I will Kindly say just 1 (or 2) simple thing(s) to you, my good savage, with three S's before and after your username. The Rs3 Wiki is absolutely not a scam, rather it is our #1 source of Rs3 Info! Furthermore, I do agree with you, in that, the GP per Hour page is indeed invalid.

HOWEVER, this is not rs3 wiki's fault. The GP per Hour from literally anything, is highly volatile and as a result, I'm certain they can only do so much with it and are limited in some capacity per the many item gp value movements within the in-game economy.

Also, they use the in-game sourced Grand Exchange (GE) prices for every single item in the Input and Output field of those calcs, so unless the good ppl of the wiki can see into the future, they will never have this SPECIFIC page working based on this sourcing method alone.

Please note I have contributed to the rs3 perhaps only like 1 or 2 times, but I have found Rs3 Wiki to be 11 out of 10, wildly useful! Especially when questing or if/when I need to show someone the optimal Invention perks page / talk them through it, etc.

In the end, we MUST kindly remember that the RuneScape 3 wiki is huge & expansive, just like the epic game of RuneScape it-self. Although I don't use the gp making guides page, as per my above sentiments.

Ty. ~Boss Geralt (Current name-change is temporary)
~The White Wolf

27-Nov-2023 04:35:06 - Last edited on 27-Nov-2023 04:39:07 by Boss Geralt

Tenebri
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wiki tell you what is listed may vary right at the top




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So roughly 30 of the top money making methods listed on the RS Wiki are bosses, some of which are sitting at 100m/hr according to the wiki which is only possible if you hit the rare drop table


yes because thats how its suppose to be calculated.



the wiki is 100% not a scam, for one what are they gaining from this? nothing.

all wiki is a source for information for the game.

people (players) have spent their own time making a guide for money makers, which they are not being paid for. you are here trying to say they are scammers? when its these people creating a website almost 71,000 articles to help us understand the game more

its posts like these that is going to make them stop and then youll be complaining because of that

if you dont want to use the wiki, then sure dont use it. but dont claim they are scammers, because something that literally changes every 5 minutes (prices of items) isnt accurate at the time when you viewed a page


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posting a money making method before testing it is also suspicious as hell,


just because you arent getting the same profits, doesnt mean they didnt test it, it means you arent getting the same profits. and as wiki already states it can change greatly due to price changes, and obviously skill issues
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27-Nov-2023 08:29:24 - Last edited on 27-Nov-2023 09:20:07 by Tenebri

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... posting a money making method before testing it is also suspicious as hell ...
Well well, take it easy ... the '
RuneScape Wiki
' is by far a '
Guide
' being able to point you in the right direction.

'
My all means the wiki is not your personal assistant playing RuneScape for you doing all the work, work you need to do yourself.
'

Together with Jagex/JMods the RuneScape Wiki gives you a closeby assistance but not all information is shared to keep enough details to be discovered by players themselves and not shared, shared to spoil the crap out of RuneScape, giving away all its secrets.

A money making guide is what it is, it is a guide but not a perfect solution. That's to be figured out by players themselves.

27-Nov-2023 08:35:03

MineMineMini
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I accept all responses in fairness, the issue lies here, they just listed the elder frame money making method so either A) They 100% knew the market price was way lower than the actual sell price - or B) They listed this money making method without even testing it - Both of which are unacceptable and most definitely a scam, if you're advertising money making methods at 80m/hr & 100m/hr but the actual profit per hour is more like 5m and 9m respectively, that's a scam, especially because they just posted the money making method I swear to God within the last 3 days, so they either knew the profit per hour wasn't what they were claiming or they didn't even test the method before posting it, that's insane.

27-Nov-2023 12:56:11

Tenebri
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I accept all responses in fairness, the issue lies here, they just listed the elder frame money making method so either A) They 100% knew the market price was way lower than the actual sell price - or B) They listed this money making method without even testing it - Both of which are unacceptable and most definitely a scam, if you're advertising money making methods at 80m/hr & 100m/hr but the actual profit per hour is more like 5m and 9m respectively, that's a scam,


no its not
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27-Nov-2023 12:59:18

MineMineMini
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I accept all responses in fairness, the issue lies here, they just listed the elder frame money making method so either A) They 100% knew the market price was way lower than the actual sell price - or B) They listed this money making method without even testing it - Both of which are unacceptable and most definitely a scam, if you're advertising money making methods at 80m/hr & 100m/hr but the actual profit per hour is more like 5m and 9m respectively, that's a scam,


no its not


Yes it is LOL the elder frame doesn't even sell for the 16k per frame it's 60-70k a frame and at 70k a frame you're actually losing money, that's the definition of a scam lol

27-Nov-2023 13:06:19

Tenebri
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Yes it is LOL the elder frame doesn't even sell for the 16k per frame it's 60-70k a frame and at 70k a frame you're actually losing money, that's the definition of a scam lol


so what? prices change. it is not a scam.

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wiki tell you what is listed may vary right at the top








they have stated at the start of the page, that 1, its estimated profits
and 2 that the prices used are the current ge value. and that the actual profit may varie
greatly


they have literally said these gp ph can and will be wrong.

they cant be 100% accurate at all times, especially when they use the ge market value. which isnt updated constantly.
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27-Nov-2023 13:28:17

Tranq
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People do understand that when these top money making methods are listed. The person adding it already made gold at it. However now that they listed a decent way of making gold for the entire internet to see. The profits fall as more people looking to make money start using them as well creating a surplus.

The runescape economy works just like a real world version by supply and demand. If demand remains constant as supply falls the cost does up. If supply increases the cost goes down as people fight to sell their wares.

It works the other way around too if supply is constant and the demand increases the cost rises. If the demand falls prices either stagnate or drop.

It's why money making methods are typically held close to the vest until the person thinks they've gotten all they can from it then go to the world hey this works. People rush to it and go this doesn't do anything I've wasted my time and resources and made nothing.
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27-Nov-2023 14:39:39

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