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litle mudkip

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So following the recent hero pass, pumpin pass and the elevated MTX percentages, twitch count is at an all time low. See below for comparisons.

Fishing planet (free game, you catch fish, cant trade other people, only MTX) - more viewers

Super smash bros multiplayer (u just fight other people lol..) - 1 streamer has more viewers than the entire rs3 twitch sub


Yugioh is as old as Runescape but they are always 15-20x the viewer count.

Shrimps 24/7 (they stream a tank of shrimps floating around) - always a higher view count than rs3 and its 1 channel


this is it for rs3, too much mtx, just remove it and double osrs membership price haha

21-Oct-2023 13:20:49

A  Cole
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A  Cole

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RuneScape isn't a game to be watched, it's a world to be immersed in.

Some games are made with streamers and viewers in mind. More viewers can then lead to more players playing that game. However, this is not always the case.

Yes, the streaming market is there, and yes Jagex can try to take some of that market share with some flashy content that showcases well on streaming platforms, but that doesn't necessarily bring in customers who are going to stick around for the long run.

As for MTX, that has absolutely nothing to do with streaming.


~A~

21-Oct-2023 15:42:00

Tenebri
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why are people you obsessed with views on twitch for a game? this isnt the first thread on this recently.

and why have you bought up mtx as a relation to twitch views? there are many games on twitch. look at fortnite it has 68k views and thats heavy on mtx.


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nvm the other thread was made by you. this one
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21-Oct-2023 17:56:05 - Last edited on 21-Oct-2023 17:59:25 by Tenebri

Dilbert2001
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Most games don't care about Twitch viewer count. For instance, we can just look at Jagex's own game SCUM, with at most hundreds of Twitch viewers comparing to tens of thousands for OSRS, but yet has 15x the Steam concurrent players than OSRS:

https://steamcharts.com/app/513710

https://steamcharts.com/app/1343370

Besides, OSRS is also seeing their Twitch viewers count plummeting too. It is hitting the 5k average viewer range in this month of October, about half of what it used to be in August and at the lowest point of the entire year of 2023:

https://twitchstats.net/game/459931-Old%20School%20RuneScape

"Yugioh"? A lot of real world consumers still watch Yigioh, but on TV. How much does the "Yugioh" you mentioned made compared to RS3? :D

RS3 content creators like TheRSGuy and Protoxx also spilled the beans - they were offered to stream and create content for OSRS, but turned away the money, while some RS3 content creator took. Hence, one of the reasons for the drop of RS3 Twitch content creators and viewers. However, the sad thing is even with RS3 streamers streaming OSRS, it doesn't help OSRS's Twitch count from dropping to the lowest point of the entire 2023. The reason? Perhaps the likes of Protoxx told us the smartest one - even it sucks without getting paid to make RS3 content, there are a lot more smarter ways to make money creating content not named OSRS. Bummer to Jagex and OSRS! :(

Too bad to Jagex the truth has set us all free. They are just playing Jenga with content creators. They know games like RS3 and SCUM don't rely much on content creators and viewship. These are their content first games. They probably think plummeting Twitch stats will kill OSRS, so they made a desperation offer to RS3 streamers, but regretfully OSRS Twitch stats are still failing.

21-Oct-2023 17:59:36 - Last edited on 21-Oct-2023 18:40:20 by Dilbert2001

Qwis7
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I honestly do not understand this at all.

So you basically say if something got low view count you should remove it?
I think that a lot or maybe majority of the gamers or what ever people are doing do not even care about twitch or did not hear about twich at all.

Because of all these things I do think you have made this thread just for trolling and do hope we get this locked as soon as possible.

21-Oct-2023 19:08:01

Dilbert2001
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Most bigger streamers bot their viewer count, OSRS is hardly the only such game.

Different games have different ways to attract players, even games within the same parent company have big disparity. You can look at RS3 and SCUM. Almost all their streamers are part time streamers or just hobbyists. They don't have the money to bot a big viewer network anyway.

Somehow OSRS thinks:

"Navigating the delicate balance between fair play for all and acknowledging the influential role of content creators within Old School has always presented a nuanced challenge. Content creators, with their widespread reach and impact on our community and potential players..."


Obviously, they care a lot about streamers and viewership, although I don't think their hugggeee streamer base and viewership do much to their actual underlying business and profits anyway. There are also even bigger, far far bigger companies than Jagex, who probably are in the like mind of me. For instance, the insanely huge Microsoft doesn't spend much on streaming their own big Halo Infinite (1k or 2k viewers) and other products, as well as ESO (hundreds or 1k views) and Fallout among other games they own under Bethesda.

Of course, Microsoft just completed the acquisition of Activiaion Blizzard King, let's see if they are making changes there too.

Like RS3 and SCUM, of course, Halo, ESO and such are content first, no gimmick games. They don't rely on do and die number patching of streaming services viewership and concurrent player count to reap in actual real world big profits.

22-Oct-2023 18:31:05 - Last edited on 22-Oct-2023 18:38:52 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001
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Quality is far more important than quantity. In this modern video game industry, most game developers don't rely on number patching to attract players, especially the ones that want to attract investors and not only players.

Do you think the likes of Microsoft won't cry a river when they pay a lot of money to get a lot of big streamers and viewers, give them annual awards... but only to find out they are real world traders and ban them... or even worse unethically unban them many times? Or even worse when their award winning big streamers going out to the public and accuse them as a corrupted company?

Quality of the content matters, not how big and how many streamers and viewers matter much. Perhaps the esports genre is the one which still care about viewership. They are spectator games most often free to play. They make big money from the consumers watching their games, MTX and real world goods, and not that much from the free players. These aren't remotely Jagex's games though.

23-Oct-2023 19:48:19 - Last edited on 23-Oct-2023 19:52:52 by Dilbert2001

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