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senseiofstr

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wow, I'm currently looking at 4 "Casino" bots. Everyone is cool this is? Modators, you guys okay with it? Blows my mind, BANNED THEM, report them, why is this STILL an issues? Why do I give my money to people who keep adding more and more stuff instead of actually fixing it, we Quick to take your cash, but not to work to up hold the every rule they created, wtf.
...and everyone is okay with it.
Do you not agree?
Disagree?
why?

02-Jan-2024 21:25:23

Tenebri
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you seem to be under the impression these are easy to get rid of, they are not, they are one of the hardest.

they get banned the owner replaces them asap.

jagex response on bots recently
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1930437137



no one is okay with it. we just understand this isnt a simple "fix" and to get rid of them properly isnt just banning the accounts, but going at them from the source, which takes a shit ton of time and a shit ton of money
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02-Jan-2024 21:38:09

senseiofstr

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I understand it is not an easy task, but surely solutions can be solved. It is a laughable amount of bots. Where are all the in game mods? I don't see any anyone. Bots keep getting replaced? IP banned. Still replaced? Use AI to generate possible names and check. The servers time stamp every single thing, do a signature based anomaly base on how much a player makes in a give minute, then use the pre-existing software to check for botting. Even a statement to check all players online, that have the royle rode on the check if cheating. Like okay, it's not easy, but it's not that hard either. It's an ongoing issues that gets a blind check of struggling profits.


Here is a side related artical
https://news.sky.com/story/buyout-firms-vie-for-runescape-developer-jagex-13033608

02-Jan-2024 21:46:46

Tenebri
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senseiofstr said :
I understand it is not an easy task, but surely solutions can be solved.

oh yes it can be solved. but its not easy and its not a quick thing to happen.

its a constant battle between bot detection technology, and botting technology.

at the moment it sucks to say, botting technology is in the lead.
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02-Jan-2024 21:48:18

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Additional that link doesn't show actual intonation, they just... tell you... no real data.
and seems like bot tech has had the lead, the whole time. Other game studios have implemented far better solutions.

Woodcutting? All those bots take the same path? put a rock there and ban all who get stuck. like i just feel like give the money being paid monthly to jagex, they could solve it for us, and clearly Im not the only one who feels the way if they feel like they need to release video about the exact topic .

02-Jan-2024 21:48:48 - Last edited on 02-Jan-2024 21:52:24 by senseiofstr

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senseiofstr said :
Additional that link doesn't show actual intonation, they just... tell you... no real data.

yes they tell us the data. doesnt matter if its from a mouth or from a excel spreadsheet.

they will not go into how the detection works etc. that would be terrible idea lmao.
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02-Jan-2024 21:50:55

senseiofstr

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Fight fire with fire, but a mod bot at ge, and I'm sure the AI engineers can figure it out from there

And it kinda does. Otherwise it's just word, you can show a chart or graph without giving away anything. Do you not see the lack of effort? That twitch video sound like a politician.
What was the name of that guy again?

02-Jan-2024 21:55:42 - Last edited on 02-Jan-2024 21:57:28 by senseiofstr

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senseiofstr said :


And it kinda does. Otherwise it's just word, you can show a chart or graph without giving away anything.?

how is having the information in a graph, any different from them just saying it?

the information is whats important.

and thats 200k bots are banned a month
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02-Jan-2024 22:06:07 - Last edited on 02-Jan-2024 22:07:37 by Tenebri

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senseiofstr said :
He can say 200k bots a months all day.
We can argue all day.
Sometimes doing your best isn't good enough.
If such a situation persists, step back and adjust your strategy.
I feel cheated and I'm not the only one

i didnt think we were arguing.

im just pointing out its not as easy as you think it is to get rid of them. and showing they are doing something. (i didnt say what they are doing is enough)

thats all
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02-Jan-2024 22:32:08 - Last edited on 02-Jan-2024 22:32:35 by Tenebri

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