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Storm le Fox

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I recently saw a post in here where someone was begging a Jmod to overturn a ban appeal on one of their long-term members. It seems the Jmod finally convinced the person that the ban was warranted and that the player had actually broken significant rules (I assume botting).


So my question is:
If a clanmember is found to be botting and they have contributed significantly to the overall clan XP, then shouldn't that XP be removed from the clan?

Clan rankings are based on XP earned for the clan, so in this case, someone used unfair advantage (i.e. botting) to enhance their clan's position.

Seems like it should be removed from the clan total.

16-Dec-2015 17:31:58

Norne
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Storm le Fox said :
If a clanmember is found to be botting and they have contributed significantly to the overall clan XP, then shouldn't that XP be removed from the clan?


Given the way the clan xp system works, that probably already happens. Remember, when someone leaves the clan the xp they earned for the clan is wiped from the xp database on the OFFICIAL sites. Likewise, when a member is permanently banned they are, as far as I can tell, removed from the clan as well as many other functions. 2+2 should equal 4, although this is Jagex so god knows if it actually does. .-.
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16-Dec-2015 17:56:12 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2015 19:44:22 by Norne

Scret
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Its far worse for clans to have members who are banned still in the clan with no way to determine if they are banned or not. I know that most would prefer the loss of xp and not have a perm banned account clogging their clan members.

Either way it would be nice for a way to know.
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16-Dec-2015 20:05:12

CuddleBucket

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I hope you're not referencing my thread, but I also was on here recently asking for help with a members ban.
I was thankful & appreciative of the genuine care shown, which I hadn't seen evidenced initially & jumped the gun.
What I did I did for me, as I'd worked side by side with him for years, & take him at his word without a moments hesitation. You have members you sometimes wonder about, as they aren't responsive in chat - he was always present.
He has built our clan alongside me with a core of others.
He has not given up getting his account back, though he knows it's likley 0% chance.
Perhaps he's guilty, but if you had the same relationship you'd be as certain as I am that he is not.


Specific cases aside, it would certainly be handy for clans to be able to determine if there was any members on their list who had exhausted all appeal processes & had 0 chance of ever logging in again so that we could remove them from our list.

Or even if they were automatically removed it's fine, but it could cause confusion for those of us who track changes if their was no notification as to why a player was removed.
(unless there is already a source that tells you who removed a player? I'm not aware of one but if it exists that would be fine because then we wouldn't be left wondering who on earth removed said person & why.)

I Would definitely support a feature like that as effectively deleted players shouldn't take up space on our limited lists.
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17-Dec-2015 07:40:13 - Last edited on 17-Dec-2015 11:35:44 by CuddleBucket

Mod Matthe

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This would be something that you could suggest as a Ninja fix but it likely to require web development to be done. Mod MattHe | Former Community Manager, now in Events & occasional Lore Monkey

17-Dec-2015 15:15:39

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