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Fresh Amu
Nov Member 2023

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For the past many years of the game pking and minigames have been neglected, even though it is a big part of RuneScapes history, and I do believe a lot of people enjoy it, this part of the content.

The wilderness rework has been in my opinion been a big failure.

Possible solutions?

Minigames

Firstly every achievement associated with any mini game should be removed to prevent people being afk and not playing as intended. For people already having the achievement a pet can be exchanged which will have a compared drop rate as, the time it takes to get the hardest achievement.

Player moderates should be able to kick anyone in a mini game, which are deliberately runing the game for anyone else’s and not playing as it is intended

Instances could be a good a idea where you can join a clan chat or someone hosting a game.

Bots? Having a instances where you are able to play with bots in a easy medium and hard setting

Pking

Threats should be removed for players that are skulled

Threats monster spawns should only be attacking the player that the monster is assigned to

Preventing 1 iteming, to prevent this a solution can be that the level weapon will only be as strong as the tier armor the player is wearing, this will prevent someone with a hellfire bow having a tier 99 weapon but not risking anything

No cosmetic should be allowed in the wilderness skulled or not

For the people that are not skulled, monster should not be dropping anything expect charms, this might incourge people being skulled, an additional 25% will be granted for players that are skulled and killing monsters in the wilderness

Pking hub in the middle of the wilderness, same place as last man standing in ors, where the “dangerous clan wars portal” can be placed and the wilderness mini game in the entrance to the wilderness.

Lastly I think a quest should be implemented to teach new players about the many minigames

01-Jan-2023 22:07:48

Daddy Roshi
Jan Member 2018

Daddy Roshi

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people dont care about mini games any more everyone wants xp now if its not the best xp in around no one is gonna do it

if u cant get loot from the wilderness whats the point of wilderness slayer then? y should we be opted in to pvp just to get loot? thats stupid

making weapons match the tier of armor is also stupid y should i use for example nox staff and have it knocked down to virtus stats? another terrible idea u act like a one itemer is actually gonna beat someone fully armored with just the wilderness bow that wont happen and on that note would that mean wilderness bow losses lvl 99 stats if someone wears royal d hide or any other tier of range armor? if not y should other combat styles be punished?

even if mods have the ability to kick someone from a mini game (which they shouldnt have the right to to begin with) that only works if a mod is actually playing the mini game and could rightly be used for griefing if say their team is losing mini games have an activity bar to make sure u actually participate in the game anyways so mods dont need more power given to them

y do we need a quest to explain mini games? whats the point in that? u learn as u play go in blind like everyone else did/does if u need help learning as other players

y cant u have cosmetics on in the wildy if ur not opted in to pvp? who does it hurt? no one at all if ur opted in to pvp then fine no cosmetics but if ur opted out theres no issue with using them thats what theyre for anyways

bots in mini games thats fair ill give u that one but thats basically the only thing i agree with
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02-Jan-2023 23:53:38

Fresh Amu
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Fresh Amu

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I agree that people are carrying more about xp then minigames and pvp. But I particularly believe that this is due to the lack of updates in this part of the game.

As you said previously people want xp, if u offer better xp rates in the wilderness people will opted to using that option, and if u want loot you need to take a risk and opted into pvp mode to get that extra reward, I believe that it is a fair trade .

Tier weapons was mostly meant for the hell fire bow. I don’t think it is fair nor balanced that anyone can get a tier 99 weapon for “free” without taking any risk.

Mini quest pking is not easy it’s not like old school and there is a much higher learning curve, therefore a mini quest to mostly explain how to use the abilities effectively in different minigames setting would make a lot of sense

03-Jan-2023 17:56:48

Daddy Roshi
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Fresh Amu said :
As you said previously people want xp, if u offer better xp rates in the wilderness people will opted to using that option, and if u want loot you need to take a risk and opted into pvp mode to get that extra reward, I believe that it is a fair trade . thats what the higher threat system is for hit lvl 10 and u get jumped by several high combat monsters that will kill u pretty quick if u arent careful if people are there to skill y should they worry about someone pk'ing them? that defeats the purpose of the opt out option if they already have to worry about mobs killing them y do they need to worry about pk'ers as well?

Fresh Amu said :
Tier weapons was mostly meant for the hell fire bow. I don’t think it is fair nor balanced that anyone can get a tier 99 weapon for “free” without taking any risk. there is a risk to taking it for one if u take it ur automatically opted into pvp and its the same rules as before with the bow anyone can fight u ur location is broadcasted to everyone in the wildy and i believe its always muli combat for the wielder (i may be wrong about that one but not 100% sure)
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04-Jan-2023 00:52:29

ShallPrevail
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It's hilarious, people actually take their own time to try and help the game, even though it's dead and we got people who are literally brain washed to jupiter trying to convince us nobody enjoys minigames or PVP.



NOBODY LIKES MINIGAMES OR PVP???? are we insane or what................


Listen Fresh Amu, the game is literally dead and whoever is left playing here either is a halfer and will eventually quit the game to come back later or they deny the games dying and makes every excuse in the book to protect Jagex with their constant failures.

RuneScape is not RuneScape anymore, they completely dropped the ball from their *possible* return once the Covid pandemic hit, they had old and new players coming back to rs3 and what did they do?

THEY ACTUALLY HAD THEIR WORKERS BASH MINIGAMES AND PVP ON THEIR TWITCH STREAMS . One of the things they literally said were

*RuneScape is not a minigame game*

like clearly, IT NEVER WAS A MINIGAME GAME , it supported minigames.

This is the intelligence that is bending the minds of many people.

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All in all, you hit it right on the head. Minigames and PVP are such a huge part of RuneScape and Jagex is completely ignoring it.

The amount of money and players they have completely dropped because of pure negligence is mind blowing, and it really shows how much they just do not care about RS3.

It's all about OSRS and milking RS3 until the sun goes down.

We usually have 30k players online, many are afker's, playing on multiple accounts and we even have bots. Meanwhile OSRS is rocking 100k players, I think the rest speaks for itself.

I guarantee, the first company that takes over Jagex that actually cares will say to the players,
we are going to fix PVP and minigames.

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And yes the PVM transformation to the Wilderness was a complete failure, and guess who takes the hit from this?

THE PLAYERS WHO ENJOY PVP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone know what respect is here???????????????
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05-Jan-2023 01:54:06 - Last edited on 05-Jan-2023 02:19:27 by ShallPrevail

Cam8528
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i agree that some mini games of yore now feel a bit like ghost towns.

perhaps as more skills (b)reach the 120 level cap and xp requirements skyrocket exponentially, many lesser known minigames will be brought into the forefront of public awareness as a method of skills training.

i think the best way to incentivize mass participation in mingames with solo players is to make xp gain scalable and highly competitive with the existing grindstyle training method.

if you play a minigame for 1 hour, you should get atleast 2x the experience that you would training (for 1 hour) the highest level grindset items available to your players current skill level.
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16-Jan-2023 16:51:05

ShallPrevail
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Cam8528 said :
i agree that some mini games of yore now feel a bit like ghost towns.

perhaps as more skills (b)reach the 120 level cap and xp requirements skyrocket exponentially, many lesser known minigames will be brought into the forefront of public awareness as a method of skills training.

i think the best way to incentivize mass participation in mingames with solo players is to make xp gain scalable and highly competitive with the existing grindstyle training method.

if you play a minigame for 1 hour, you should get atleast 2x the experience that you would training (for 1 hour) the highest level grindset items available to your players current skill level.

I'm unaware of the solo approach you mentioned, the only solo PRO people I know are the people creating the game. This is what needs to end.

I do agree, hopefully they wake up and eventually make a complete game and this does not include only minigame focus. It just all comes down to investment from the company itself.
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16-Jan-2023 20:33:48

Cam8528
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Firstly every achievement .......... it takes to get the hardest achievement. agreed

Player moderates should be able .............. not playing as it is intended agreed

Instances could be a good a idea......... join a clan chat or someone hosting a game. agreed

Bots? Having a instances where...... play with bots in a easy medium and hard setting agreed

Pking

Threats should be removed for players..... skulled agreed

Threats monster spawns........... the player that the monster is assigned to agreed

Preventing 1 iteming............ risking anything DISAGREE

No cosmetic should be ...... in the wilderness skulled or not DISAGREE

For the people that are not skulled..............this might incourge people being skulled, an additional 25% will be granted for players that are skulled and killing monsters in the wilderness agreed

Pking hub.............. in the entrance to the wilderness. agreed

Lastly I think a quest should be implemented to teach new players about the many minigames agreed
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16-Jan-2023 21:33:40

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