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GoldenSun3DS

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I mentioned this in another thread, but I feel like this deserves its own thread to enable searching, especially as this forum grows and gets more filled. I want to just talk about the stylus in this thread.

Jagex mods had said before that the Samsung Note line of phones' Stylus was fully supported, but that is clearly not the case.

From my thread "RS on Note 8 with the stylus" on the "Future Game Updates" Forum:


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The S Pen is fully supported, with hover behaving like a mouse, and side button + tap for right clicks

28-Nov-2017 13:19:38 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2017 13:20:00 by Mod Dark

So what happened? It was apparently working, so why did you disable it?

05-Mar-2019 19:15:31

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That statement was from a time when we were shoehorning the desktop UI on to mobile, we have since completely rewritten and redesigned the UI and input system in a mobile-optimised manner, and S-Pen support would have to be re-investigated.

12-Mar-2019 20:22:11

GoldenSun3DS

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Mod Dark said :
That statement was from a time when we were shoehorning the desktop UI on to mobile, we have since completely rewritten and redesigned the UI and input system in a mobile-optimised manner, and S-Pen support would have to be re-investigated.

I honestly WOULD rather have the full desktop UI on my phone exactly because I have a stylus. And I HAVE experienced exactly that with my handheld gaming PC GPD Win, although it lacked a stylus, and I used the analog stick for the mouse with shoulder buttons for left and right click.

S-Pen "support" (in quotations because you've really just blocked it, not chosen not to support it) does not take away from mobile optimizations. Me being allowed to have my steak (stylus) does not take away from a baby that can't have steaks (those without stylus phones).

You can have mobile optimizations for low end, low resolution phones but still support high end, high resolution phones.

This just feels like a stab in the back after allowing last year's beta players have access to it and talking about it and hyping it, and then you cut it out arbitrarily even though it worked. I resubscribed for EXACTLY this, and you take it away?




What makes this even worse is that you botched the disabling of the stylus functions. The hover is still there with single mouse button mode, except it just causes the right click options to immediately disappear when you hover over an option because it just causes the hover to click that option.
This means that stylus users have single button gameplay mode broken when using their stylus.

12-Mar-2019 22:13:40 - Last edited on 12-Mar-2019 22:15:12 by GoldenSun3DS

GoldenSun3DS

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I don't mean to be rude, but this is literally a case of game devs deciding for themselves whether we want something and taking it away.

It was fully functional and players had access to it in a previous version of the beta (Reddit posts), but it was arbitrarily removed. It's one thing if you can't do a certain feature, but it's absurd to already have it and then hold it back.

Why should I continue my membership if you're intentionally cutting out features, especially the ONE thing that very specifically made me buy this phone in anticipation for the mobile beta and subscribe BECAUSE you said it would have it?

13-Mar-2019 04:17:06 - Last edited on 13-Mar-2019 04:17:32 by GoldenSun3DS

Hax

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Mod Dark said :
That statement was from a time when we were shoehorning the desktop UI on to mobile, we have since completely rewritten and redesigned the UI and input system in a mobile-optimised manner, and S-Pen support would have to be re-investigated.

We stated years ago we wanted mobile...

Time and time again we shout....


Finally we are heard! It is in development.


Now that it is here people are blackmailing membership? over a pen cursor?

;) No worries. Mobile has them hooked they are just mad they cant use their uncommon rich kid tools. Small stylus might be nice to click things properly, Oi I'm sure those still work guys, so please chill and be grateful for even getting a game like this on mobile.


Highly doubtful that mobile was even slightly copy and paste material.


Played a few mobile MMO's myself.... None are even slightly comparable even in the beta form RS is now...


Thank you Jagex.

14-Mar-2019 07:08:49

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GoldenSun3DS said :

What makes this even worse is that you botched the disabling of the stylus functions. The hover is still there with single mouse button mode, except it just causes the right click options to immediately disappear when you hover over an option because it just causes the hover to click that option.
This means that stylus users have single button gameplay mode broken when using their stylus.

To be clear we didn't 'disable' it as that would imply we can flick a switch to bring it back, and we have a recorded bug for what you describe

14-Mar-2019 13:34:59 - Last edited on 14-Mar-2019 13:37:54 by Mod Dark

Paige
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Just so you know as of this timestamp and date im able to use stylus for rs beta on my note 9 no problems
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18-Mar-2019 01:32:34

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GoldenSun3DS said :
I don't mean to be rude, but this is literally a case of game devs deciding for themselves whether we want something and taking it away.

It was fully functional and players had access to it in a previous version of the beta (Reddit posts), but it was arbitrarily removed. It's one thing if you can't do a certain feature, but it's absurd to already have it and then hold it back.

Why should I continue my membership if you're intentionally cutting out features, especially the ONE thing that very specifically made me buy this phone in anticipation for the mobile beta and subscribe BECAUSE you said it would have it?

It would be highly advisable to NOT buy hardware specifically for one app. Especially when that app is still in development. Beta software is known for this type of issue. In Beta you will have things work and then changes are made that break those things and then later they will be fixed again. This is not an over night process and it is certainly not a process that should dictate your hardware.

18-Mar-2019 04:33:49

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