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Noticed them pop up in the Oddments shop so I bought one pair to test them, and they seem really bad compared to Advanced Pulse cores.


When skilling with an Advanced Core and bonus XP, they stack multiplicatively, granting you +50% XP from the core, then the bonus XP doubles both XP from skilling and the +50% from the core for a combined 150% increase, or 300% XP rate.

On top of that, you get a +2% XP buff that stacks multiplicatively with bonus XP at no extra cost. At max stacks that's +10%, or 330% XP rate.

Now with Cinder Cores, the bonus XP increase is 250% rather than 100%, so you gain XP at 350% of the rate, or 400% at max stacks. The core itself does not provide any bonus XP or XP increasing buff, it just drains bonus XP faster.


Overall comparison with their buffs at max stacks.

Pulse core:

XP gain rate: 330%
Bonus XP consumption rate: 150%

Cinder Core:

XP gain rate: 400%
Bonus XP consumption rate: 300%

With Cinder cores, you're getting a 21% faster XP rate, but losing bonus XP twice as fast. The moment you run out of bonus XP, pulse cores become outright superior as they provide bonus XP in themselves and an inherit XP buff while the Cinder Cores rely entirely on bonus XP.


I get that these are marketed towards "large aquatic mammals" with infinite bonus XP and not someone who uses their daily keys and hardly cares about TH, but unless you want to reach goals as soon as possible with infinite bonus XP, Cinder Cores aren't good value at all.

I suggest adding something like "When a Cinder Core explodes, you receive a Small Smouldering Lamp from inside", giving direct XP roughly half the amount of a Pulse Core and burning a bit extra.
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06-Nov-2019 03:53:59 - Last edited on 06-Nov-2019 03:56:07 by I ate all

Evilrutabaga
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I don't see any point to these. Some just appeared in my inventory, but idk from where. Postie pete, perhaps? I use my bonus xp about as fast as i get it, so I don't see any advantage to using it faster. Is there a benefit I'm missing, or should I just destroy them?

07-Nov-2019 02:26:26

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Evilrutabaga said :
I don't see any point to these. Some just appeared in my inventory, but idk from where. Postie pete, perhaps? I use my bonus xp about as fast as i get it, so I don't see any advantage to using it faster. Is there a benefit I'm missing, or should I just destroy them?


You get them for free with the promo.

They seem targeted to those who just have colossal sums of bonus XP and want to exchange it as soon as possible for XP, otherwise they are bad compared to Pulse Core.
of the elves

07-Nov-2019 04:57:06

Evilrutabaga
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That's what I figured. Cinder cores are for the players that buy a lot of spins, and have tons of bxp. For those of us who don't buy spins, if you have 50k of bxp in a skill, it doesn't much matter if you convert the bxp to xp by doing 50k of regular xp in the skill, or by doing 15k of xp in the skill with massive bxp, and then 35k with no bxp at all. The net is that over the long term, these produce no benefit at all, unless you have massive bxp you are never going to use up.

On the whole, this is a pretty good idea by Jagex. It gives people something they put some value on, without giving them any actual xp benefit. Then, once people realize that they are out of bxp, they may buy more spins. That said, since I don't ever have much bxp, they aren't really useful to me, so I may just destroy mine.

07-Nov-2019 05:10:19 - Last edited on 07-Nov-2019 13:39:36 by Evilrutabaga

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