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Nilthing

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Are we 100% sure that the Dragonkin have had their curse lifted simply by shattering the Stone?

Of course, we know that the stone has been broken, but do we know that the curse is gone with it? It seems entirely reasonable that the curse may extend beyond the physical Stone. The curse bound them to the stone, the curse was not the Stone itself.
Jas placed the curse on them. Jas still exists. The curse then..? Perhaps.

You may think: if the thing that was triggering the curse, the stone, was destroyed then what's the problem if it's gone and can't be triggered anymore? Well..

We know that their cursed rage subsides over time, and so without Gods and Mortals abusing the Stone the Dragonkin may seem to recover, and that's great and all, but they may in fact still be cursed. Which means that the Dragonkin may still be doomed to live forever in infertility and be unable to continue their proud lineage. This will not make them happy. They'll turn their sights on Jas directly. At least, I hope this is the case as it would still allow for a deep Dragonkin questline in the future.

Further, given that we have a few fragments of the shattered stone ourselves (post quest rewards, 3 shards that can be combined into one), as well as Nomad having potentially taken a piece in Zamorak's Heist, it is entirely possible that the fragments of the Stone could be re-collected and the Catalyst remade if we can find all the pieces. This would be bad for the Dragonkin if the curse has endured the destruction of the Catalyst.

Similar feats were proven possible when Sliske recovered the broken Staff of Armadyl from the Ritual site after it was broken by Lucien in his fight against the Dragonkin and repaired it wholly. Perhaps we will even see the shattered Elder Blade remade at some point too.

Point being, the curse may still passively exist and if the stone is ever remade, the curse may endure, or at the very least, the Dragonkin still face extinction.

29-Dec-2016 13:29:06 - Last edited on 29-Dec-2016 13:34:15 by Nilthing

Kemtros
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I'd been wondering about the curse, though I'm not sure if Jagex would ever have the Stone be remade. There was a brief line where someone overheard the dragonkin discussing "The echo's link", which is probably the Stone. My theory is that the next step of breaking the curse would be trying to destroy the Echoes of Jas, and we've only seen Strisath free of that. The Dactyl would probably be more concerned with the Echoes, while the Dactyl would continue their hunts for revenge. Before they go after Jas, I'd expect them try and hunt down Saradomin and Zamorak. We know that Saradomin's weakness is his daughter, and Kalibath may be interested in trying to kidnap or even kill her, just to lure out Saradomin. So I would who would go after Zamorak?

29-Dec-2016 16:23:11

A Mad Hatter
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Way I figure it, the Stone might be shattered but I'm willing to bet that there's no clause about whether or not it has to be in one piece for the curse to activate its effects.

The effects might be lessened compared to what they were when the Stone was whole (if only because there's probably less power being drawn from individual chunks compared to the full sized thing), but if getting rid of an Elder God's curse was that easy then the Dragonkin side of the Sixth Age is either going to be the shortest part of it once their plotline continues or is going to have a hell of curveball coming our way. O_o
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30-Dec-2016 01:54:11 - Last edited on 30-Dec-2016 01:55:04 by A Mad Hatter

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I seem to remember the Jmods saying that the orb on the Staff of Armadyl was something that Armadyl had been added to the siphon at one point (i.e. not made by elder gods), which was why Sliske could repair it. Can't remember were I heard this though.

It was in the Missing Presumed Death FAQ:

Q: How did Sliske repair the Staff of Armadyl? Sliske says that the Dragonkin followed him into the Shadow Realm, but was the Staff already repaired by the Dragonkin at that point?

Mod Osborne: Remember that the orb was broken, but not the shaft. The orb is not what makes it an Elder Artefact - that was an embellishment (along with a few other things) by Armadyl. Anyway, that doesn't answer your question: in terms of repairing it to its former glory, Sliske would have done that after he got it from the dragonkin. After all, it agitates Armadyl more if it's how he remembers it [troll face]


In other words, I don't think the elder artifacts can be repaired without either elder god power or substantial amounts of divine energy.

30-Dec-2016 01:58:52 - Last edited on 30-Dec-2016 02:13:01 by Hguoh

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My guess is that the curse is probably still there and the problem is greatly compounded for them because now instead of 1 big stone, they have thousands of tiny shards that anyone and everyone want their hands on and will be causing them constant pain. I think Kerapac will have made things worse, not better. sTReTCh1028
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31-Dec-2016 02:20:36

Summerleaf
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[quote id=341-342-986-65864684-2-340105022]Way I figure it, the Stone might be shattered but I'm willing to bet that there's no clause about whether or not it has to be in one piece for the curse to activate its effects./quote] I always figured the curse was tied to the magical part of the stone, but with that part imploding on itself (Thanks Kerapac) it's gone. I mean, I'm sure that part of it still exists within them and Jas, but I *think* that with the destruction of the stone, most of it is gone.

31-Dec-2016 20:11:33

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