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Solanumtinkr

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Ok so this Headless Moai neck got me thinking, are all Moai good by design or are there some real nasty pieces of work out there?

Have I missed something?

What is with all the dead Moai in the uncharted isles? (yes it's probably a game mechanic)

Or is this headless Moai the work of an Uncharted serial killer with a Moai fetish, No Neck Ned? :O

What do discus? All things Moai! The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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21-Oct-2016 19:10:57 - Last edited on 21-Oct-2016 20:00:52 by Solanumtinkr

Solanumtinkr

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Ancient Drew said :
Do you really think you can save them, Solanumtinkr? You can't. The soul of everything ends its journey at the infinite shadow. And this is Xau-Tak. A Xau-Tak minion butchering Moai? You know what? That actually makes some sense.

OK so how about this for a scenario? So No Neck Ned ( An Urban legend!?) runs about killing Moai. We know that this releases ancestral energy out on the uncharted isle. But I was wondering what if they were taking something from them that was being uised to make or fuel some of his minions?

Would that fit with what we know? The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
To the Manor Born QFC 185-186-367-65788716

21-Oct-2016 20:53:08 - Last edited on 22-Oct-2016 10:26:18 by Solanumtinkr

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We learned during our endeavor to move Aminishi to Waiko that Moai die when they lose connection to an island's soil and will rapidly leak the anima and energy stored within them. This certainly appears to be what's happening to the Moai on the uncharted isles.

But how can that be the case, they are clearly on islands. To that, I question if they really are. The uncharted isles are a fairly interesting place. No matter how exploratory voyages you go on, you're never able to find an island you've already visited unless you mark the island with a special flag. Furthermore should one lobby or log out while on an uncharted isle, they'll be greeted with a message that explains how any items left on the floor have washed out to sea no matter how far inland/high up.

This leads me to a conclusion. The uncharted islands are much more sandbars than they are actual islands. They likely submerge, shift, and reemerge quite often, with only the island claiming flags and/or the presence of sentient life acting to stabilize an isle.

21-Oct-2016 22:17:36

Cthris
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Hguoh said :
We learned during our endeavor to move Aminishi to Waiko that Moai die when they lose connection to an island's soil and will rapidly leak the anima and energy stored within them. This certainly appears to be what's happening to the Moai on the uncharted isles.

But how can that be the case, they are clearly on islands. To that, I question if they really are. The uncharted isles are a fairly interesting place. No matter how exploratory voyages you go on, you're never able to find an island you've already visited unless you mark the island with a special flag. Furthermore should one lobby or log out while on an uncharted isle, they'll be greeted with a message that explains how any items left on the floor have washed out to sea no matter how far inland/high up.

This leads me to a conclusion. The uncharted islands are much more sandbars than they are actual islands. They likely submerge, shift, and reemerge quite often, with only the island claiming flags and/or the presence of sentient life acting to stabilize an isle.

How do the trees stay alive then?

22-Oct-2016 01:56:02

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Cthris said :
Hguoh said :
We learned during our endeavor to move Aminishi to Waiko that Moai die when they lose connection to an island's soil and will rapidly leak the anima and energy stored within them. This certainly appears to be what's happening to the Moai on the uncharted isles.

But how can that be the case, they are clearly on islands. To that, I question if they really are. The uncharted isles are a fairly interesting place. No matter how exploratory voyages you go on, you're never able to find an island you've already visited unless you mark the island with a special flag. Furthermore should one lobby or log out while on an uncharted isle, they'll be greeted with a message that explains how any items left on the floor have washed out to sea no matter how far inland/high up.

This leads me to a conclusion. The uncharted islands are much more sandbars than they are actual islands. They likely submerge, shift, and reemerge quite often, with only the island claiming flags and/or the presence of sentient life acting to stabilize an isle.

How do the trees stay alive then?

They are very very tall. Sometimes they'll be completely above water, sometimes only their tops will be, and sometimes they'd spend a while underwater (think like how Mangrove roots work, but for the entire trunk).

22-Oct-2016 04:35:05 - Last edited on 22-Oct-2016 04:38:08 by Hguoh

Cthris
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Hguoh said :
Cthris said :
Hguoh said :
We learned during our endeavor to move Aminishi to Waiko that Moai die when they lose connection to an island's soil and will rapidly leak the anima and energy stored within them. This certainly appears to be what's happening to the Moai on the uncharted isles.

But how can that be the case, they are clearly on islands. To that, I question if they really are. The uncharted isles are a fairly interesting place. No matter how exploratory voyages you go on, you're never able to find an island you've already visited unless you mark the island with a special flag. Furthermore should one lobby or log out while on an uncharted isle, they'll be greeted with a message that explains how any items left on the floor have washed out to sea no matter how far inland/high up.

This leads me to a conclusion. The uncharted islands are much more sandbars than they are actual islands. They likely submerge, shift, and reemerge quite often, with only the island claiming flags and/or the presence of sentient life acting to stabilize an isle.

How do the trees stay alive then?

They are very very tall. Sometimes they'll be completely above water, sometimes only their tops will be, and sometimes they'd spend a while underwater (think like how Mangrove roots work, but for the entire trunk).

If wood floats... and palm trees are made of wood, have short roots, and are buried in sand that would be submerged by water... how would they stay alive?

How would they even grow in the first place, for palm trees are born from buoyant seeds that surely would float away once the islands are submerged?

22-Oct-2016 04:46:42 - Last edited on 22-Oct-2016 04:50:36 by Cthris

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I would say the Eastern Palms would have to have deep roots and a high tolerance for salt water. I'd go as far as saying they would require a subsurface ecosystem that lives in symbiosis inside the protection of the same root system. The floating husk of the seed would need something inside far denser to sink once the seed floated to a new island, only cracking open to deposit the seed after both the internal and external moisture dried out enough.

I say internal as that would act as a timer give to a fallen seed time to float to a new piece of land and the external being when it finally hits dry land.

While there is parallels to palms, it doesn't have to be the same thing exactly. The husk could even contain more than a few "dense seeds" and the husk would float away after depositing some cracking open when it run aground and dried up. Becoming wet again would make it seal up again as the tide came in.

Whatever surrounded the kernels itself would have to carry the symbiotic bacteria and such with it, that would give it the start for it to sprout and grow. The plants could even trap stuff from the sea while submerged, they'd just have to be hairy (sort of) near the base, I would think?

One such example, trapping plankton, amongst other things, and the system set up so that it would rot transfer what was gained down into the root area for storage/use. Like some plants do with insects for food. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
To the Manor Born QFC 185-186-367-65788716

22-Oct-2016 09:05:07 - Last edited on 22-Oct-2016 09:22:19 by Solanumtinkr

Cthris
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Solanumtinkr said :

One such example, trapping plankton, amongst other things, and the system set up so that it would rot transfer what was gained down into the root area for storage/use. Like some plants do with insects for food.

If Runescape palms exist in such a way that would be contrary to their real world models, why have they developed the long and impressive trunks? Surely they have no need for their trunks as they would have be able to go for perhaps weeks, months or years fully submerged?

Would not the trunk be a hindrance to the palm. How could the ridged trunk ever hope to hold out against the pressing tides of the ocean? Why would it not be soft and flexible like kelp or seaweed?

Edit- How does the bamboo stay alive? Isn't bamboo normally a plant that thrives on humid environments, and is largely endangered by too much water being in the soil?

22-Oct-2016 16:55:54 - Last edited on 22-Oct-2016 17:09:53 by Cthris

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