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The Epitome
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The Epitome

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If we lose world guardian powers that implies we will never interact with them again since simply being in their presence brainwashes weak mortals. World guardian memes are the only thing that protected us.

Am I crazy for thinking
"ok I'm off to transcend in megadeath shadow universe"
and
"I'll make sure these newborn elder gods that are immensely more powerful than me and have a history of wiping everything in existence stay on this obliterated planet. They'll listen to me forever. Trust"
are unacceptable ending points? Let's not even talk about Azzanadra who become a God seemingly just to deal with Arch Glacor and nothing else before getting yeeted off the planet, or the full grown and strongest Elder God that got absolutely dominated and pulled into aforementioned megadeath shadow universe. Nah, don't think about it. Let's just go back to our "grounded medieval fantasy"... :)

At this moment I see three possibilities:

1. Terrible storytelling in the form of permanently leaving us with more questions than answers for several majory storylines involving some of the most popular characters.

2. Terrible storytelling in the form of making us the 1/1,000,000,000 chosen one AGAIN sometime in the future with a deus ex machina powerup allowing us to rival Gods and counter world/universe ending threats.

3. Terrible storytelling in the form of not actually losing all our powers and not actually banishing all the Gods despite being told that's exactly what will happen and the drama/speeches/resolve surrounding it.

Interested to know what everyone else thinks about the direction this is going?

09-Jun-2022 07:20:39 - Last edited on 09-Jun-2022 07:36:40 by The Epitome

Mel 624
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If the whole world guardian thing is such a problem then maybe they should've thought about the long term effects of it before escalating it the way they did. I'd prefer seeing the gods learn to coexist with mortals than banishing them all to only be seen when traveling off world.

They could still have a compelling reason for things to turn out differently than intended. For all of Guthix's understandable distrust of other gods, the edicts just don't seem like something that'll ever be viable long term. How to block a forum user

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10-Jun-2022 03:30:18

Triet

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They are almost certainly setting up another plot twist. Do you think we'd be getting, quote, "A six month Legacy of Zamorak storyline," if things are going to work out exactly how we expect they will? (Ie we kick Zammy out, banish all the gods, and lose our World Guardian powers) If it were, we'd be over and done with everything on July 4th when the elite dungeon comes out.

Furthermore, it wouldn't make much sense for them to come up with the whole detailed explanation of our World Guardian powers in the past two years of quests only for them to unceremoniously take them away for good. If they thought the World Guardian was a bad idea, they could have just handwaved it that we became a normal mortal again after Sliske's Endgame or just never mentioned it again. The writers are deliberately creating intrigue and setting something up with those powers.

This ritual is just not going to work. Possible reasons why:

1. Someone will intervene and stop it all at the last minute. Many people, especially followers of other gods, have motives to do so.

2. Zamorak is tricking us into banishing the other gods in a way that allows him to control the Edicts himself. Maybe by absorbing Guthix's essence from us or finding a way to use the Sword of Edicts in the Wilderness. We got the supplies for the test ritual from Isaura, one of his subordinates, and he or one of his followers may have tampered with them in some way. He has a number of smart people like Bilrach working for him who could have come up with such a plot. Not to mention that Zamorak himself was once a great general and knows how the followers of the other living gods and Guthix operate by now.

And if that happens, then the story will turn into finding a way to reverse the whole thing, which would make us the World Guardian again.

3. Considering how Extinction played out, I can see some out of left field thing happening like Zamorak randomly being assassinated. The "legacy" would be like his funeral then.

20-Jun-2022 23:59:18

Triet

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And as far as Zaros and Seren go:

Their auras aren't mind control. They're more like subliminal messages that many people are able to become aware of and resist. It's a very easy thing to handwave away if they really went through with us losing our World Guardian powers. Lorewise, we're the only ones who are immune to their auras, and that includes the other gods. But we just found an entire team of people willing to defy Seren in Extinction. Zaros also had plenty of detractors who were disloyal to him. Another thing to keep in mind is that when we hear about their auras, it is usually from their point of view and played up: Zaros is a narcissist and uses the loyalty people show him as evidence that he should be the one with absolute power. Seren, on the other hand, thinks Zaros and the elves only loved her because they were essentially forced to. But we also know that she is a very loving and gentle soul who wants everyone to be at peace. She would have her fans even without the aura.

On the topic of the story involving those characters, the writers are obviously setting up something big with Zaros in Erebus. His story is not over. Seren's might be. Who really knows? I was shocked they got rid of the elder gods (and Iaia) in such a silly way, but it might still all lead to something.

I won't be surprised if both Zaros and Seren get powered up. Zaros from siphoning power from the corpse of Jas + the Staff, and Seren from being around three young elder gods who see her as a mother figure.

21-Jun-2022 00:23:28

God Drakan

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Everything got f'd up the moment we got the 6th age, simply having the 5th age of just roughly 169 years shows how messed things are. We wont be getting any more good storytelling in regards to the present content. It will continue to be butchered and the only good thing that we might get are new stories that arent tied with anything we know to date; consider it some sort of refresh. The last 8 years of lore were nothing more than a build up hype for an absolute, but obviously expected, disappointment.

23-Jun-2022 00:18:07 - Last edited on 23-Jun-2022 00:20:31 by God Drakan

The Epitome
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The Epitome

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Bringing this discussion back up after just having watched the July 19 stream with Mod Jack where he said all storylines should have a reasonably satisfying conclusion. That's certainly not what we got with the Gods...

I get that it's nice to have relatively small scale adventures again, but these are some of the most interesting, important characters and they shouldn't just be tossed aside (maybe forever) because the writers got bored and want to do something different.

We NEED a far better conclusion to Zaros, Azzanadra, and Seren / baby Elder God stories at a minimum.

It's very concerning that Mod Jack used Zamorak as an example of a "reasonably satisfying conclusion" because even that wasn't particularly good. We're meant to believe he'll just be fighting Saradomin across the universe forever? Saradomin is a whole tier of Godhood above him after their battle at Lumbridge.

26-Jul-2023 18:30:54

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